The Allen Iverson Saga

[Lynsanity]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

So Iverson would be just as effective as Chauncey on both ends of the court? Yeah, I disagree.

Iverson Gambles on defense. He would have more steals, but would be a sieve defensively. That being said, he was a part of the faster paced defensive unit the Nuggets used in his second season. They were a scrappy, passing lane playing, energy group.

Chris Anderson would have made that unit better. It is possible that Iverson could have thrived with an Anderson led energy unit, but as far as straight up D. Probably not.

[Muzyk23]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

The only thing Iverson hasn't won is a ring.So I guess he's on the same boat as Malone,Barkley,Ewing,R.Miller,etc.. not bad company!

Everybody's not going to win a ring especially with no Legit post player or great head coach.

Look at the teams from the last 10 years that has won it.

Lakers,Celtics,Pistons,Spurs,Heat

Great coaching,Great Wing play,Great Post play

Now tell me the last team Iverson played on that had that? ding ding ding Larry Brown and Dikembe Mutumbo(Past his prime)



Who is Jason Kidd? What has he done that Iverson hasn't done?

Why didn't Jason Kidd go to L.A. if he wanted a ring? You're 21 and was 12 when Iverson and Kidd was in they're primes you know not much of anything.

Everybody in the NBA isn't a ring chaser,I'd much rather be happy on my job with much success rather than upset with a funky ring.


You keep saying Denver has the same team are deaf or blind?

Nene
Jones
Billups = 3 New starters= MAJOR change

The only reason they were close was because Melo was averaging close to 40.When Melo went down the Nuggets went down.

don't even pay attention to dtx's comments..he was like 13 when AI went to finals..he didn't know ish about basketball and he's a straight AI *****

[Muzyk23]

Re: AI speaks out..in a way

How could you even compare Jason Kidd to a selfish A.I.? Get over your love for him man. Why doesn't A.I. go to Celtics if he wants to win? Why didn't he come off the bench in Detroit? Why did the Nuggets get raped by the Lakers only to come back with almost the exact same team and almost beat the Lakers without A.I.? Why is A.I. such a loser? Why???

oh boy boy

didn't Kidd was the one who 'fired' B. Scott? didn't he go to the finals with a nice Nets team and failed (twice)? didin't the great and STILL, as most of you claim, one of the best defensive and offensive pgs played on like 5 different teams and haven't won ISH?

deasn't it make him a loser BY YOUR STANDARDS? standarts which you so freely apply to AI but not to Kidd?

get that weak stuff out of here !

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

didn't Kidd was the one who 'fired' B. Scott? didn't he go to the finals with a nice Nets team and failed (twice)?

If you believe what BSPN spits out to you as you do anything Iverson, then you would be correct.

[Muzyk23]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

that's a legit argument..I don't listen to BSPN..I visit OS

[Juice Malone]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

A.I. would do well on Miami. D-wade is an excellent distributor of the ball, no need to go small and play 2 guys under 6'0, so you can get another passer out there. Both Iverson and Wade would need to work on there range for it to work though.

[DTX3]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

Who is Jason Kidd? What has he done that Iverson hasn't done?

Why didn't Jason Kidd go to L.A. if he wanted a ring? You're 21 and was 12 when Iverson and Kidd was in they're primes you know not much of anything.

Everybody in the NBA isn't a ring chaser,I'd much rather be happy on my job with much success rather than upset with a funky ring.

I'm no genius or anything like that, but doesn't a team have to express interest in you in order to bring you in? Yeah, Kidd would definitely win a title with the Knicks. What does my age matter? Wow so I was 12 when he was in his prime, and? I was hating on him in highschool too so don't trip. I had fun rubbing it in to the A.I. fans back in the day when they got raped by the Lakers.

You keep saying Denver has the same team are deaf or blind?

Nene
Jones
Billups = 3 New starters= MAJOR change

The only reason they were close was because Melo was averaging close to 40.When Melo went down the Nuggets went down.

Melo obviously played better, but I tell you if that Billups trade didn't happen, the Nuggets and Melo wouldn't have been as good as they were in the playoffs. BILLUPS is a true leader, A.I. not so much.

don't even pay attention to dtx's comments..he was like 13 when AI went to finals..he didn't know ish about basketball and he's a straight AI *****

Yeah, I knew NOTHING about basketball because I was 13. You're obviously bitter because the great A.I. hasn't done **** but be a great individual player in a TEAM sport.

oh boy boy

didn't Kidd was the one who 'fired' B. Scott? didn't he go to the finals with a nice Nets team and failed (twice)? didin't the great and STILL, as most of you claim, one of the best defensive and offensive pgs played on like 5 different teams and haven't won ISH?

deasn't it make him a loser BY YOUR STANDARDS? standarts which you so freely apply to AI but not to Kidd?

get that weak stuff out of here !

BSPN is bad for anybody with a brain. Kidd, unlike A.I. lead his team to TWO NBA Finals and finished second to the TWO best teams of those two years. A.I. is a great individual player in a TEAM SPORT. He is also a SELFISH LOSER.

Until he shows otherwise, he will NEVER change is act. How many teams are expressing interest in him right now? Memphis? MEMPHIS? Get over yourself man. I'm glad he pulled that ***** move in Detroit, ruined his legacy.

[Muzyk23]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

yaawn..you still haven't answered my questions..let them stay rhetorical

[ProjectRipCity]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

BSPN is bad for anybody with a brain. Kidd, unlike A.I. lead his team to TWO NBA Finals and finished second to the TWO best teams of those two years. A.I. is a great individual player in a TEAM SPORT. He is also a SELFISH LOSER..

How drunk were you when you posted that? Calling one of the best players in the last decade a selfish loser is completely uncalled for.

[DTX3]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

yaawn..you still haven't answered my questions..let them stay rhetorical

The difference between Kidd and A.I. is Kidd never pulled bitch moves because he didn't want to come off the bench, have fun watching your favorite player in Memphis.

How drunk were you when you posted that? Calling one of the best players in the last decade a selfish loser is completely uncalled for.

Am I lying? He's more concerned about averaging 20+ pts than helping a contender make a run for a title.

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

True...but watch my next two answers...

Jason Kidd? He's still one of the best points (offensively & defensively) in the league.


So Iverson would be just as effective as Chauncey on both ends of the court? Yeah, I disagree.

#1.If Kidd is still one of the best why the hell did they get worse after trading Devin Harris away? Is Kidd the Antique?

#2 Here

Chancey at PG

http://www.82games.com/0809/08DEN1.HTM#bypos

Chauncey 21.1

Opponent
16.2

Iverson at PG

http://www.82games.com/0708/07DEN4C.HTM

Iverson 25.4 per

Opponent
14.4

Stats

Chancey 17.9 ppg, 42% ,12.5 FGA,6.8 assist

Iverson 26.4 ppg,46%,19 FGA,7.1 assist


So Now I'm waiting to hear Iverson stats is false because of the style they play

[DTX3]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

#1.If Kidd is still one of the best why the hell did they get worse after trading Devin Harris away? Is Kidd the Antique?

#2 Here

Chancey at PG

http://www.82games.com/0809/08DEN1.HTM#bypos

Chauncey 21.1

Opponent
16.2

Iverson at PG

http://www.82games.com/0708/07DEN4C.HTM

Iverson 25.4 per

Opponent
14.4

Stats

Chancey 17.9 ppg, 42% ,12.5 FGA,6.8 assist

Iverson 26.4 ppg,46%,19 FGA,7.1 assist


So Now I'm waiting to hear Iverson stats is false because of the style they play

Nuggets in the playoffs with A.I. 0-4

Nuggets in the playoffs without A.I. 10-6

[ProjectRipCity]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

Am I lying? He's more concerned about averaging 20+ pts than helping a contender make a run for a title.

You are not very informed. Anyone who makes millions of dollars who has success in the NBA is a winner. Having AI is not going to make a good team worse infact it's the opposite.

If I am not mistaken...He led the 76ers into a championship finals appearance...No way in hell they make it out of the first without him.

At this point it's not even worth debating...It's just a hopeless topic.

[Jukeman]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

Re: Iverson wants to go to Memphis?

Melo obviously played better, but I tell you if that Billups trade didn't happen, the Nuggets and Melo wouldn't have been as good as they were in the playoffs. BILLUPS is a true leader, A.I. not so much.

Kidd, unlike A.I. lead his team to TWO NBA Finals and finished second to the TWO best teams of those two years. A.I. is a great individual player in a TEAM SPORT. He is also a SELFISH LOSER.

Until he shows otherwise, he will NEVER change is act. How many teams are expressing interest in him right now? Memphis? MEMPHIS? Get over yourself man. I'm glad he pulled that ***** move in Detroit, ruined his legacy.

You're I can't even say it

Who did the Nuggets defeat? Mavs and Hornets

Who did the Nuggets lose too? Same team the lost to with A.I. only in a later round due to changes and Major injuries

So Kidd gets a pass for coming in 2nd? And he lead his team but A.I. didn't? :lol

Miami and Memphis &? A.I. is 34 and still is capable of getting you 20-24 a night so what does that tell you?