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  • Basketball GURU
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    • Jul 2010
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    #586
    Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by cubsball899
    i'd be very happy if the bulls come away with marshon brooks.
    I like Marshon Brooks too, i doubt he makes it past the 20's. Hopefully we can trade up.

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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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      • Dec 2006
      • 17294

      #587
      Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Basketball GURU
      I like Marshon Brooks too, i doubt he makes it past the 20's. Hopefully we can trade up.
      Milwaukee fans are talking about reaching for him with our pick... I'd rather take Burks personally, but Brooks certainly looks like he can score.
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      • Eman5805
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        • Mar 2009
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        #588
        Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

        Man, oh man, do I want my Hornets trading up for that dude. *sigh* Sadly, it don't seem likely anymore.

        Maybe we can make a play for Jeremy Tyler instead.

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        • wwharton
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          • Aug 2002
          • 26949

          #589
          Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Marino
          Why do you like both colleges I despise? Lemme guess, you are a Seminole fan to right?

          smh.

          On draft topic, I expect the Bobcats to disappoint me.
          Terps is obvious... but I've been a Heels fan since I first saw them and play and met JR Reid (very random, I know). I liked everything about them from the colors, to Dean Smith, to Kenny Smith, to Jeff Lebo, etc. Even came close to going to school there even though it would've killed any chance of playing ball in college. I was even a big Hornets fan when they were formed just bc they were in Carolina.

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          • Weeks
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            • Aug 2009
            • 2990

            #590
            Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

            NBAdraft.net has the bulls getting Shelvin Mack, which makes sense.
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            • Jonesy
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              • Feb 2003
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              #591
              Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by DemiGodzillla
              I think waste of time is a little harsh, keep in mind he's been playing ball less than 3 years, and his offense was never touted as a strength but a large drawback, once he starts working with NBA coaches I expect that his offense will round out at least to some degree.
              Exactly. If they did a workout like that with Ben Wallace at the height of his game he'd probably have looked even worse than Bismack in that clip. If anyone drafts that kid for offense they are crazy but he has that Ben Wallace / Serge Ibaka body and game that would be worth a 7-15 pick in such a weak draft if that's what your team needs imo.

              Sure he might be a bust but that could be said for 90% of the players in this draft so he's as good a long shot as any outside of the top 5 or 6 guys.

              I hope the Cavs take Irving and Vesely as I think they would compliment each other nicely and they have Hickson to do the dirty work. Let JV streak out on the break and catch lobs from Irving where he can do some real damage.
              Last edited by Jonesy; 06-13-2011, 06:23 PM.

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              • mikenoob
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                • Oct 2007
                • 5545

                #592
                Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Weeks
                NBAdraft.net has the bulls getting Shelvin Mack, which makes sense.
                Wow, just realized they have Kanter going first with Brandon Knight at #4. I don't know about that, can't really pass up on Irving.

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                • Weeks
                  L Corleone
                  • Aug 2009
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                  #593
                  Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by mikenoob
                  Wow, just realized they have Kanter going first with Brandon Knight at #4. I don't know about that, can't really pass up on Irving.
                  Yeah, I didn't think the Cavs were all that impressed with Kanter.
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                  • cubsball899
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                    • Jan 2010
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                    #594
                    Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                    Milwaukee fans are talking about reaching for him with our pick... I'd rather take Burks personally, but Brooks certainly looks like he can score.
                    from what i heard... he's 6'5 witha 7'1 wingspan. i bet he turns into a good defender too. especially if he's got thibs teaching him. i'm probably just being overly optimistic

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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
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                      #595
                      Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by cubsball899
                      from what i heard... he's 6'5 witha 7'1 wingspan. i bet he turns into a good defender too. especially if he's got thibs teaching him. i'm probably just being overly optimistic
                      Well, I think both Skiles and Thibs could mask his defensive deficiencies even if he isn't able to necessarily develop into a good defensive player.

                      What I like about Burks is that he's a good free throw shooter, seems to be a better finisher around the rim with both hands, and seems to be a better playmaker as well.
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                      • Sportsbuck
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                        • Jul 2006
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                        #596
                        Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                        I'm really high on Burks... would love to see him in CHA.
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                        • Checmate101
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                          • Mar 2006
                          • 9947

                          #597
                          Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                          I know we bet not trade McGee to get a 2nd pick..
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                          • ex carrabba fan
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                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #598
                            Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Jonesy
                            Exactly. If they did a workout like that with Ben Wallace at the height of his game he'd probably have looked even worse than Bismack in that clip. If anyone drafts that kid for offense they are crazy but he has that Ben Wallace / Serge Ibaka body and game that would be worth a 7-15 pick in such a weak draft if that's what your team needs imo.

                            Sure he might be a bust but that could be said for 90% of the players in this draft so he's as good a long shot as any outside of the top 5 or 6 guys.

                            I hope the Cavs take Irving and Vesely as I think they would compliment each other nicely and they have Hickson to do the dirty work. Let JV streak out on the break and catch lobs from Irving where he can do some real damage.
                            1. I totally get what your point is, and I do agree somewhat...

                            But Wallace had a proven college career in America. He also went undrafted.

                            Of course the point that this is a weak draft, you couldn't really hate too much on selecting Bismack in the lottery. I don't know though, he seems too unknown for my likings.

                            Even though this draft is "weak" I see a lot of rotation players that could stick around for years. So I would just like to see more Bismack footage in real games. But you're right, in drills and workouts he's gonna look sloppy.

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                            • Jonesy
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #599
                              Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              1. I totally get what your point is, and I do agree somewhat...

                              But Wallace had a proven college career in America. He also went undrafted.

                              Of course the point that this is a weak draft, you couldn't really hate too much on selecting Bismack in the lottery. I don't know though, he seems too unknown for my likings.

                              Even though this draft is "weak" I see a lot of rotation players that could stick around for years. So I would just like to see more Bismack footage in real games. But you're right, in drills and workouts he's gonna look sloppy.
                              Yeah true, if Bismack gets into the lottery he'd have to be one of the biggest "potential" / "upside" type pick's in history because he's so raw and hasn't really achieved much of anything. There have also been some questions raised about his actual age (listed at 18) because he looks so much more physically mature than that but then again so did LeBron and Oden so who knows if there's any stock in that.

                              I guess like any draft they'll have to decide between a more known player and a long term project like Bismack but only this year more than most it's going to be happening in the lottery and not in the 2nd round because of the lack of potential superstar's coming out. I'd personally be more inclined to take Kenneth Faried if you wanted a Ben Wallace type because at least the kid has rebounded at an elite level in college but teams love drafting on potential and there's almost an anti-euro or anti-soft preference going on now which raises a player like Bismack even higher than perhaps he normally would be.

                              On Bill Simmons podcast they were saying how this year could be like 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NBA_Draft#Draft) with a pretty weak draft overall but a couple of solid guys near the top (Aldridge, Roy, Gay etc) then a few diamonds in the rough hidden further down (Rondo, Millsap) which i thought was probably a pretty good comparison though this year might be even weaker imo.

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                              • SteelersFreak
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                                • May 2004
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                                #600
                                Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

                                I've done a horrible job of keeping up with college basketball and the draft lately. NBADraft.net has the Mavs drafting Justin Harper from Richmond and Gary Flowers from SoMiss. Are those reasonable?
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