Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

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Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

Not to side track this thread but this statement is flat out wrong. No disrespect or anything but Jordan and Kobes Offensive games are nearly identical. Hell their career progression is exactly the same both went from ridiculous high fliers to dominating the post as they got older.

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You want more video evidence their is hours upon hours of other footage showing how similar Kobe and Jordan's offensive game is. And If Dwyane's defense is so much better than Kobe's then how do you explain the fact that Kobe's defensive rating is higher than wades?

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To Answer the original question D-wade over Reggie

Statistically, Wade's best year > Kobe's best year.

Also, lol at Kobe's "defensive ratings". If you wish, we can bring up defensive stats and you'll see that Kobe is one of the most overrated defenders of all time. He probably only deserved one all team defensive awards his whole career.

[ShawnKemp40]

Lol at everyone acting like Dwayne Wade wasn't helped by the refs in 06. Wade would cry and would not survive a day in the 90s playoffs with the type of fouling that was going on. He would cry everytime he got touched since hand checking was still legal

Reggie Miller over Wade anyday

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[ojandpizza]

Lol at everyone acting like Dwayne Wade wasn't helped by the refs in 06. Wade would cry and would not survive a day in the 90s playoffs with the type of fouling that was going on. He would cry everytime he got touched since hand checking was still legal

Reggie Miller over Wade anyday

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Saying the 90s era was THAT much "tougher" than today's era is the most over exaggerated argument in basketball debate history.. I grew up watching the 80s and 90s it's not like dudes were out there brawling instead of playing basketball.. And the hand checking is the worst part, it's not like people just walked around holding and pushing you.. If you honestly see THAT big of a difference in game play I suggest you go buy some glasses.

Basketball is still basketball.

And helped by the refs? Yeah the refs can just give you an automatic 40 points in the finals right? He didn't do any of that without them.. Didn't that actually count his misses as makes? I think he even got 2 points for his air balls too

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Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

As an all-around player D-Wade is the better player, but in a pure D-Wade vs Reggie Miller awesomeness battle, Reg wins all day.

Reggie is arguably the most legendary shooter of all time, and despite not winning a championship (which is not much of a shortcoming considering that he played in the Jordan/Olajuwon era) he really molded the nba incredibly. The character that reggie brought to the game was awesome. Him versus the knicks was something everybody had to see.

Dwayne is a great player, but he doesnt embody the legendary attitude that reggie had, and from a fans perspective I think thats what matters. I would rather watch reg any day because he was exciting and at least when he cried to the refs, he put some effort into it. Wade just sits there with the facial expression of a two year old who licked a lemon.

[ojandpizza]

As an all-around player D-Wade is the better player, but in a pure D-Wade vs Reggie Miller awesomeness battle, Reg wins all day.

Reggie is arguably the most legendary shooter of all time, and despite not winning a championship (which is not much of a shortcoming considering that he played in the Jordan/Olajuwon era) he really molded the nba incredibly. The character that reggie brought to the game was awesome. Him versus the knicks was something everybody had to see.

Dwayne is a great player, but he doesnt embody the legendary attitude that reggie had, and from a fans perspective I think thats what matters. I would rather watch reg any day because he was exciting and at least when he cried to the refs, he put some effort into it. Wade just sits there with the facial expression of a two year old who licked a lemon.

Hahaha @ that last sentence.. I agree with much of what you just said. However I don't think this thread was a fan favorite or popularity contest.. I think the purpose was to decide who was the better player, which even you said was Wade.

[DamnYanks2]

Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

Everyone's probably already beat this topic to death, but I can't even believe this is a real topic. a declining Wade is better then a prime Miller.

[The 24th Letter]

It's funny how people look back so fondly at Reggie's persona...

If he was playing now all you'd hear is how much he flops and how he needs to "STFU" and stop being a "fake tough guy" because he propped off so much.

A lot of NBA fans are so whiny now, I don't think they could take a modern day Reggie...

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Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

Reggie Miller is an all-time great based off his outside shooting and clutch play, but this isn't even slightly close. Last season, an injury riddled Wade relegated to a sidekick role avg 22 4.6 asts 4.8 rebs 1.7 stl 1.3 blks off 49.7% shooting with a PER over 26. Those stats would qualify for Reggie's best year. Wade averages 25, 6 and 5 and shoots 48.6% for his career with the 6th best career PER of all-time at 25.70. While Reggie averaged 18,3,3 off 47.1% and a PER of 18.36. How is this even an argument?

Furthermore, Wade has a FINALS MVP for a series which he posted the greatest PER for a finals series ALL-TIME. He's a better scorer, defender, playmaker on both sides of the ball, rebounder and just as clutch. Reggie had a ton of signature moments and is a legend in his own right, but he's not in the same league as Wade.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

It's funny how people look back so fondly at Reggie's persona...

If he was playing now all you'd hear is how much he flops and how he needs to "STFU" and stop being a "fake tough guy" because he propped off so much.

A lot of NBA fans are so whiny now, I don't think they could take a modern day Reggie...

Reggie would have been his own meme, Troll Face Reggie.

[d11king]

Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

I don't mean to sound like a douche, but people really need to stop saying "such and such (in this case, Wade) is the closest thing we'll see to Jordan."

....There will never be another Jordan

Just like how there will never be another Kobe Bryant, amongst others.

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Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

How is this debatable? Miller was an awesome shooter and was lights out at the line. Wasn't good at creating a shot, and ugh defense...
I'm a Magic fan, and the only thing more deadly then D. Wade are the ******** moves made by the Magic execs.
Create a shot, leading a team, mentoring lebron, playing fantastic off-ball D. He'll probably go down as the greatest shot-blocking SG ever. Top 50 player easily.
Steven A, got anything to add to this debate?

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Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

How is this debatable? Miller was an awesome shooter and was lights out at the line. Wasn't good at creating a shot, and ugh defense...
I'm a Magic fan, and the only thing more deadly then D. Wade are the ******** moves made by the Magic execs.
Create a shot, leading a team, mentoring lebron, playing fantastic off-ball D. He'll probably go down as the greatest shot-blocking SG ever. Top 50 player easily.
Steven A, got anything to add to this debate?

This has nothing to do with the debate, but I really think this doesn't get mentioned enough when people talk about the Heat and D-Wade's legacy. How much of his influence has led to LeBron's emergence and improvement as a clutch performer over the past 2 seasons? There is no telling how great of a job Wade has done at getting in LeBron's head (in a positive way), and making him into the player he is now.

[HMcCoy]

Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

Wade's defensive chops give him the nod in my book.

Offensively, I go Reggie though. Wade is the poster child for the throw yourself at the rim and flail for a call era, real talk, and his offensive versatility was nowhere near Miller Time. (Rightous indignation...building) Reggie was deadly off curls and pin downs, spot ups, isos. To me Wades fancy handles and atheletic finishes are gorgeous and effective, but he still gets so much of his offense at the rim and FT line, he's pretty 1.5 dimensional *in comparison*.

Also, Reggie's size was outlier in those days, so I remember him being more KD with attitude...less atheleticism, but still a crazy size/length mismatch who was tough, swaggy, and lethal. If he didn't have team-oriented coaches like Larry Brown and Larry Legend and a Piston like roster of B-level teamates, I think his scoring would have consistently been in the 27-30 range, given the gunslinger he was.

Can't take anything away from Wade as a better defender and playmaker, but it's easy to forget how beast Reggie was. Just my .02

[DamnYanks2]

Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

Wade is such an incredible defender, which gives him the nod in my book.

Offensively, I go Reggie though. Wade is the poster child for the throw yourself at the rim and flail for a call era, real talk, and his offensive versatility was nowhere near Miller Time. (Rightous indignation...building) Reggie was deadly off curls and pin downs, spot ups, isos. To me Wades fancy handles and atheletic finishes are gorgeous and effective, but he still gets so much of his offense at the rim and FT line, he's pretty 1.5 dimensional *in comparison*.

Also, Reggie's size was outlier in those days, so I remember him being more KD with attitude...less atheleticism, but still a crazy size/length mismatch who was tough, swaggy, and lethal. If he didn't have team-oriented coaches like Larry Brown and Larry Legend and a Piston like roster of B-level teamates, I think his scoring would have consistently been in the 27-30 range, given the gunslinger he was.

Can't take anything away from Wade as a better defender and playmaker, but it's easy to forget how beast Reggie was. Just my .02

Reggie was certainly a better pure shooter, I'll give him that all day. I like your points too, but Wade is the better scorer imo. Personally I'd take Allen over Miller. Consequently I'd take Wade over Allen. Wade has nothing on either of them as far as pure shooting, but Wade's attack dog style to the rim was so lethal. He could create so much better then Miller. He can't come off screens and drill 3's like Miller can, but he's got a proven mid range, and of course that tremendous footwork. Wade is still fantastic, but in his absolute prime, he was Lebron esque getting to the rim.

I gotta give Wade the better scorer title, Miller better pure shooter.

[HMcCoy]

Re: Dwyane Wade vs Reggie Miller?

Reggie was certainly a better pure shooter, I'll give him that all day. I like your points too, but Wade is the better scorer imo. Personally I'd take Allen over Miller. Consequently I'd take Wade over Allen. Wade has nothing on either of them as far as pure shooting, but Wade's attack dog style to the rim was so lethal. He could create so much better then Miller. He can't come off screens and drill 3's like Miller can, but he's got a proven mid range, and of course that tremendous footwork. Wade is still fantastic, but in his absolute prime, he was Lebron esque getting to the rim.

I gotta give Wade the better scorer title, Miller better pure shooter.

Good points. I'll say this, tho...In this no-touch league Reggie Miller would be ridiculous. Don't know if Wade could have held up physically with his style in the golden era of true bruisers guarding the paint without the crazy number of bailout calls. Then again, without the roids he may have developed the jumper earlier...whos to say.