2023 Offseason Thread
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Kyrie is speaking like he wasn't the reason Harden wanted to leave Brooklyn lol.
Not fully defending the team over player, but Harden I essentially mad that he expected to be taken care of for taking a discount. Then tried to leverage Houston over Sixers to try to have an option of max contract, until Udoka shut that down. Then got mad because Philly ghosted him before the FA period and didn't tamper. Harden realize the market wasn't there and took the most money on the table and then choose his destination later.
The way how Harden said Morey was liar, makes some believe there was a handshake/wink wink deal. They have a decade plus relationship. But something everyone learns as a kid is that never agree to something unless you have it in writing. But if Harden has receipts, might as well go full scorched earth lol
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Another trade I wouldn't mind is Mike Conley and Kyle Anderson for Harden as a trade that keeps cap flexibility. Conley would be a ball handler replacement, and offers consistent floor spacing. It allows Maxey to not have to be primary ball handler, but solidifies him as the #2 scorer. Don't really like Anderson, but brings needed size on wing, can offer rebounding and playmaking.
Unless they can get Raptors on the phone for someone like OG, it feels like Clippers or Wolves deals are my top 2. I'm actually leaning a little towards the Wolves. Just because it somewhat fills some needs. They would need a Vet PG who offers playmaking, spacing, play off the ball, and offers some defense and a wing with size.Comment
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Definitely both the problem here. Saw a report that Morey wants an elite player plus picks for Harden. If that's what he's asking he's as delusional as Harden and making absolutely zero sense. How the hell is someone that YOU aren't willing to give a max deal to worth an elite player AND picks. You ask for one or the other in a deal for someone like this. Not both. I don't even think you can ask for an elite player for Harden if I'm being honest.Comment
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Definitely both the problem here. Saw a report that Morey wants an elite player plus picks for Harden. If that's what he's asking he's as delusional as Harden and making absolutely zero sense. How the hell is someone that YOU aren't willing to give a max deal to worth an elite player AND picks. You ask for one or the other in a deal for someone like this. Not both. I don't even think you can ask for an elite player for Harden if I'm being honest.
If it's all about cap flexibility, the Clippers package always made sense. Morey has always had an over infatuation with Harden. From the minute Morey got there, Morey was intent on getting Harden. I fully think that if Harden didn't quit on the Nets that they would've kept Simmons the whole seasons and did a sign and trade for Harden. So, I don't think he wants to give up Harden for scraps. But, he's not getting a Lavine, PG13, OG, or Siakam for a age 34 Harden on an expiring deal with a history of quiting on teams and shrinking when the lights are brightLast edited by illwill10; 08-14-2023, 07:55 PM.Comment
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While also asking for a package that leads to a star or maintaining cap flexibility for '24. If someone had a trade package that could land a star, why would they trade for Harden rather than trade for a star. You can't have both. I understand that if you can land a star now, then get the star. But, you can't ask for cap flexibility, while trying to maintain contention. The only realistic player that applies to cap flexibility and maintaining contention level, is who DeRozan or one of the Raptors wings. But an expiring for expiring deal only makes sense when it both teams are filling a need
If it's all about cap flexibility, the Clippers package always made sense. Morey has always had an over infatuation with Harden. From the minute Morey got there, Morey was intent on getting Harden. I fully think that if Harden didn't quit on the Nets that they would've kept Simmons the whole seasons and did a sign and trade for Harden. So, I don't think he wants to give up Harden for scraps. But, he's not getting a Lavine, PG13, OG, or Siakam for a age 34 Harden on an expiring deal with a history of quiting on teams and shrinking when the lights are brightComment
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If Morey told Harden that he would take care of him and didn't, that's garbage.OSHA Inspector for the NBA.Comment
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Basically the spoiled and entitled (favorite) child was told their birthday party was going to be at Chuck E Cheese, but the dad changed it to the back yard because...reasons. I guess it's the parent's fault for spoiling the kid in the first place.Comment
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This kind of "I will take care of you down the line" promises seem to be made all the time; and if Morey can't be trusted to keep his word then he should be put on blast for other players/agent to know what's what.OSHA Inspector for the NBA.Comment
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The Wolves deal you said does seem realistic and they are the kind of team that could take a flyer on Harden. But if he is going to want more then like one 1st and want KAT then it will not happen.Retro Redemption - Starting over with a oldschool PowerBone Offense
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OKC and San Antonio will both need to find consolidation trades or they'll eventually need to waive players (on guaranteed deals).
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I think you can have 20 players under contract heading into training camp, but need to trim down to the 18 (I believe) (15 full NBA contracts & 3 Two-Way deals) player limit by the end of preseason.
OKC and San Antonio will both need to find consolidation trades or they'll eventually need to waive players (on guaranteed deals).
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Thanks, that's what I meant. There might be a guy here and there they could waive and not think twice(like Oladipo), but they either have to make a consolidation trade or make some tough decisions. A guy like Bertans doesn't make since in their rotation. I guess it's a good problem to have, but they are stacked at some spots and not enough minutes to go around and still have a lot of picks in the future.
I've seen some Spurs fans floating around the idea of waiving Blake Wesley and another young prospect. Kind of seems counterproductive when you aren't seen as a playoff contender.
I'd rather they keep young, unproven talent with upside over known quantities like Payne, Osman, & Birch.
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