The strongest punishment to side sway spam

[bmlimo]

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Hey gpd can u put a video with this distance manage? Just to understand the ai strategies... right now to keep distance you have to “run”

[Serengeti1]

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The meta has changed so much in a day. TONS of head movement spam in ranked and fishing for one strike sway counters. Footwork doesn't matter as much as it should as a form of defense. Intelligence barely matters. Jabs don't matter. Distance management doesn't matter when u try and throw a jab and constantly get it swayed because he's standing there swaying thinking he's playing a godly MMA sim and thinks he's the new Anderson Silva. Don't get me wrong... Some of the players doing this know it's lame but there are a few out there who think this.

Fishing for that head movement counter seems even more pronounced now but I think the reason this is is because gameplay has been slowed down so it sticks out even more. I just murdered two guys who were spamming head movement because I decided to start using the same BS to win. Beat both with a clean duck/upper KO.

I'll def not be playing as much while this is the meta. It sucks the fun out of the game. Especially when you can't effectively counter head movement. You end up having to use it a lot yourself and look for counters against the good players who do it.

[_Blue_Eyed_Kenshiro_]

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Im having a blast banging on boys. Game is great imo. Thanks for all the time and effort devs!

[Abstrakt fists]

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Im having a blast banging on boys. Game is great imo. Thanks for all the time and effort devs!

What's your deal man? Every post you make is about how easy everything is and how much you love the devs. Its weird. At least add something of substance to the conversation you jump into the middle of.

[EJ_Manuel]

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The meta has changed so much in a day. TONS of head movement spam in ranked and fishing for one strike sway counters. Footwork doesn't matter as much as it should as a form of defense. Intelligence barely matters. Jabs don't matter. Distance management doesn't matter when u try and throw a jab and constantly get it swayed because he's standing there swaying thinking he's playing a godly MMA sim and thinks he's the new Anderson Silva. Don't get me wrong... Some of the players doing this know it's lame but there are a few out there who think this.

Fishing for that head movement counter seems even more pronounced now but I think the reason this is is because gameplay has been slowed down so it sticks out even more. I just murdered two guys who were spamming head movement because I decided to start using the same BS to win. Beat both with a clean duck/upper KO.

I'll def not be playing as much while this is the meta. It sucks the fun out of the game. Especially when you can't effectively counter head movement. You end up having to use it a lot yourself and look for counters against the good players who do it.

You mean this patch didn't make the game the greatest ever made? You didn't watch esfl obviously with those guys drooling over GPD like he was a woman in a bikini and they were 14. Lol.

[ExOicho]

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What's your deal man? Every post you make is about how easy everything is and how much you love the devs. Its weird. At least add something of substance to the conversation you jump into the middle of.

I'm almost positive his entire account is making fun of some of the yes men on the forum

[johnmangala]

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I'm almost positive his entire account is making fun of some of the yes men on the forum

Lol I thought his first post was a dead giveaway...

Immaculate beauty haha

[ExOicho]

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Lol I thought his first post was a dead giveaway...

Immaculate beauty haha

you never know, it could just be robin black!

[Abstrakt fists]

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Lol I thought his first post was a dead giveaway...

Immaculate beauty haha

Lol i didnt dig deep enough to see the obvious parody. The posts I saw today were close enough to the real yes men that i bought in

[Serengeti1]

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I'm almost positive his entire account is making fun of some of the yes men on the forum

Gonna be honest here and no harm is meant. But this post shows to me that GPD doesn't have the best grasp on what is and isn't efficient in high level play. Asking us to counter at a highly specific time is such an unrealistic solution to the problem. The lunges don't work to counter like he's suggesting either. The recommendations in this thread are great and I truly hope they're taken into consideration and more. Look, we all like and appreciate GPD. He does his best. He's done some really good things with the game. But we don't need to dick ride everything he says and every solution he gives. If it's not effective... We need to directly tell him that. Because I know I'm not the only one here that thinks the OP in this thread is out of touch in relation to high level play.

It's not his fault as he's not experiencing the game in the way that we are. I also understand that trying to filter out bad feedback because of skill issues or the player just misunderstanding the game must be difficult.

[ExOicho]

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Gonna be honest here and no harm is meant. But this post shows to me that GPD doesn't have the best grasp on what is and isn't efficient in high level play. Asking us to counter at a highly specific time is such an unrealistic solution to the problem. The lunges don't work to counter like he's suggesting either. The recommendations in this thread are great and I truly hope they're taken into consideration and more. Look, we all like and appreciate GPD. He does his best. He's done some really good things with the game. But we don't need to dick ride everything he says and every solution he gives. If it's not effective... We need to directly tell him that. Because I know I'm not the only one here that thinks the OP in this thread is out of touch in relation to high level play.

It's not his fault as he's not experiencing the game in the way that we are. I also understand that trying to filter out bad feedback because of skill issues or the player just misunderstanding the game must be difficult.

a huge part of the frustration though is that he legitimately doesn't seem to be aware sometimes how nonsensical some of this stuff is. He seems like a good guy and im sure hes trying his best but sometimes its just pure silliness.

He also spoke with way too much confidence about how much this patch would fix things. It really didn't. He also doesn't seem to be acknowledging how ****ty the state of footwork is, for some reason.

[GameplayDevUFC]

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a huge part of the frustration though is that he legitimately doesn't seem to be aware sometimes how nonsensical some of this stuff is. He seems like a good guy and im sure hes trying his best but sometimes its just pure silliness.

He also spoke with way too much confidence about how much this patch would fix things. It really didn't. He also doesn't seem to be acknowledging how ****ty the state of footwork is, for some reason.

Alright, I'll stop.

[Serengeti1]

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a huge part of the frustration though is that he legitimately doesn't seem to be aware sometimes how nonsensical some of this stuff is. He seems like a good guy and im sure hes trying his best but sometimes its just pure silliness.

He also spoke with way too much confidence about how much this patch would fix things. It really didn't. He also doesn't seem to be acknowledging how ****ty the state of footwork is, for some reason.

Totally agree. A lot of the people that often agree with what he says often aren't good players and don't play at a high level either. As I said before.. just because something is possible to counter doesn't mean it's not OP.

The high block 'solution' didn't really do anything at all. I'm not really seeing how it creates much distance. You can also easily duck the straight punches and uppercut. It's hard not to see this whole situation pessimistically at this point. Something really needs to change here because I'm really not liking the idea of waiting several weeks for another patch that doesn't address the glaring issues when the game is played by the best players.

[johnmangala]

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We actually need you devs. We all might go back and forth but it is for our common interest in MMA and video games.

Everyone here except the trolls (who get banned anyway so it's all good) appreciates the dedication to making the best game within means.

We all just all have differing views which may get some of us a little flustered but ultimately we all in this for the long haul.

[AlEx3KillA]

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Alright, I'll stop.

Gpd dont be sad just make a stamina patch for the head movement and all will be good,thats what we been asking from day 1 to fight head movement spam and make the game realistic

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