The strongest punishment to side sway spam

[Sivo]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

All my friends and me started from low rank and it was worst than in the higher divisions the spammers like to win easily and make fun of who they beat.Also the game needs to be balanced it cant be a far west of bugs where everyone uses tricks to beat people

have you and your friends played in the lower divisions since the patch? i'm not saying there isnt a problem there, but i would like confirmation from someone who is playing there now after the patch just for some confirmation. We tend to forget that the ppl on this forum tend to be the top 5% or so of the playerbase and we assume that a problem for us is a problem for all

[AlEx3KillA]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

have you and your friends played in the lower divisions since the patch? i'm not saying there isnt a problem there, but i would like confirmation from someone who is playing there now after the patch just for some confirmation. We tend to forget that the ppl on this forum tend to be the top 5% or so of the playerbase and we assume that a problem for us is a problem for all

New people are already having problems with the striking imputs being too hard if you add head movement spam then you can understand why they leave the game fast.Also head movement not changed from the release

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

I really don't think head movement when they're standing right next to you is the only issue (still an issue though). I think a lot of it is on the outside as well. Try going in and out with the jab against someone who spams head movement. It's so silly. As far as lunging back being a good work around... I doubt it would work against somebody who knows what they're doing. And I mean good Div 5 players who have mastered this strategy.

I hear a lot about "oh it can be countered so it isn't an issue". Does it really matter if it plays like **** and isn't realistic? Like, we want people to play the game right? Inside fighting can be countered by throwing uppers/hooks (AKA being forced to fight there) but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be fixed. It should go deeper than "this can be countered so no fix needed".

I just want all aspects of MMA to be as useful as they are irl. Currently it is not even close to that. If that isn't a problem then I guess we leave the game how it is because it can be "countered". But this is also what is turning a lot of people off from the game.

This isn't directed at you or anything btw. Just trying to say what I think.

You hit the nail on the head. Plus, these counters require a considerable amount of skill compared to the low skill required to sway/duck and hook/uppercut.


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[Sivo]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

New people are already having problems with the striking imputs being too hard if you add head movement spam then you can understand why they leave the game fast.Also head movement not changed from the release

they have tried to change headmovement and strikes coming out of headmovement. They just werent enough and with the increased chance of tko's they nullified your ability to withstand the sways and rocks and take them out later in the fight when they have blown a good chunk of stamina and u had higher stamina. Whereas now even if u do survive the rocks your stamina is depleted so much that u have no chance of catching them later in the fight.

edit: My guess would be this would not be anywhere near the problem it is without the addition of the easier tko's, less knockdowns and stamina drain for knockdowns they implemented in the last patch with the heamdovement/strikes fixes.

[AlEx3KillA]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

they have tried to change headmovement and strikes coming out of headmovement. They just werent enough and with the increased chance of tko's they nullified your ability to withstand the sways and rocks and take them out later in the fight when they have blown a good chunk of stamina and u had higher stamina. Whereas now even if u do survive the rocks your stamina is depleted so much that u have no chance of catching them later in the fight.

edit: My guess would be this would not be anywhere near the problem it is without the addition of the easier tko's, less knockdowns and stamina drain for knockdowns they implemented in the last patch with the heamdovement/strikes fixes.

Head movement cheese was even worst before the last update at least now is slower.Its not head movement the problem is how many times its used and how

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

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Just another video fo someone using only says to win a fight, and yes i know, i got sloppy but still.

What's the point of the game at the moment when 8/10 fights are like this??

People are trying to pretend like the game isn't broken and that only the "best online players Re having these problems" and were in the minority.

What a crock of ****.

This fighti posted above was a quick match. It was 4 roundsof conor mcgregor weaving in and out like a professional balet dancer.

Quit saying its only a problem in ranked because 90% of my quick match fights have turned into this pathetic scene.

[Sivo]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Head movement cheese was even worst before the last update at least now is slower

agreed, i just believe this is one of the consequences of them implementing as many fixes as they did in the last patch. There are bound to be some unintended consequences and things they never saw coming, when u have so many overlapping fixes

[AlEx3KillA]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

agreed, i just believe this is one of the consequences of them implementing as many fixes as they did in the last patch. There are bound to be some unintended consequences and things they never saw coming, when u have so many overlapping fixes

Im starting to think you are Geoff using an Alt account

[Sivo]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Im starting to think you are Geoff using an Alt account

nope dont know enough about developing a game I'm just always able to see an argument form both perspectives(i like to sit on the fence about most things). That plus i still believe the devs know wat their doing and just need time. Every game i have played online for the past few years has these types of arguments for the first few months and it takes allot of patches to fix things and then fix things that arise form that patch etc

[ExOicho]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

I'm going to keep posting this, over and over and over

Footwork needs to be fixed before head movement can be

[AlEx3KillA]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

I'm going to keep posting this, over and over and over

Footwork needs to be fixed before head movement can be

No one is spamming footwork

[MMA Damage]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

I'm going to keep posting this, over and over and over

Footwork needs to be fixed before head movement can be

There's plenty besides just footwork to fix. Kicks are ******** and don't connect right too. Guy can duck and eat a body kick and unleash a couple hooks on you before your leg is back under you and get a free rock.

Leg kicks don't even always trip opponents with one foot in the air.

Single strikes need to cause more damage/rocks. Everyone only spams for vulnerability rocks cuz a guy can sit there not moving and eat 20 punches but if he throws a strike and gets countered he's instantly rocked/dropped.


How hard is it to notice how this stupid game favors counters over everything else? Grappling in itself is pretty useless with the huge denial windows on clinch and tds and that you can actually flick the stick to deny both.

[EarvGotti]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

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Thoughts?

[Serengeti1]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

The players he's playing aren't as good as him for one. Secondly, they're not using the head movement as effectively as it can be used. While I will say there are a couple rocks he got there for hitting the guy at the right vulnerability window... there's also TONS of times when that doesn't happen.

The guys he's fighting here aren't very good with head movement though. They have poor timing in general imo.

[AlEx3KillA]

Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

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Thoughts?

Martial mind:You have to really guess where they are going to slip to counter em
me:Then this game is based on Luck