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  • magx950
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 72

    #646
    Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

    Originally posted by Serengeti95
    You're playing ranked against people of a similar skill level to you though.
    did you upload the vid? i didn't see it

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    • Thetruth11
      Banned
      • Feb 2018
      • 474

      #647
      Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

      Originally posted by Serengeti95
      We can get some more fights in if you want. Just take it to the fight club thread.
      I won't be home for about 3 hrs I'm not worried.

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      • Serengeti1
        MVP
        • Mar 2016
        • 1720

        #648
        Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

        Originally posted by Thetruth11
        I won't be home for about 3 hrs I'm not worried.

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        Okay. Try to keep the emotional outbursts to a minimum then.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #649
          Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

          Originally posted by Serengeti95
          This is your decision mate. If you want to have a disadvantage that is your prerogative. I don't understand why you're complaining about it. I think the skill vs realism thing is currently fine how it is.
          I actually had a discussion with a gamechanger about this a while back. He wanted to be able to use Saki in ranked but his grappling is so poor it would equal an auto loss at the top levels. The was asking for a grappling buff (nothing huge) so that he would be more viable at that level.

          My response was that Saki had shown any grappling skills (yet) so buffing him wouldnt be realistic and it would be unfair to rank him over fighters who while not great at grappling have shown more skill there.

          My view is that everyone shouldnt be viable at the top levels of ranked. Why? Because people are simply looking to win at that level and will always gravitate toward the best fighters. Now there should always be a group of fighters who are viable at each weight class but everyone shouldnt.

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          • Thetruth11
            Banned
            • Feb 2018
            • 474

            #650
            Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

            Originally posted by Serengeti95
            Okay. Try to keep the emotional outbursts to a minimal then.
            No emotion just facts
            People cry about flaws but when somebody states the problem behind it that's not to their liking they makeup bs

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            • Serengeti1
              MVP
              • Mar 2016
              • 1720

              #651
              Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              I actually had a discussion with a gamechanger about this a while back. He wanted to be able to use Saki in ranked but his grappling is so poor it would equal an auto loss at the top levels. The was asking for a grappling buff (nothing huge) so that he would be more viable at that level.

              My response was that Saki had shown any grappling skills (yet) so buffing him wouldnt be realistic and it would be unfair to rank him over fighters who while not great at grappling have shown more skill there.

              My view is that everyone shouldnt be viable at the top levels of ranked. Why? Because people are simply looking to win at that level and will always gravitate toward the best fighters. Now there should always be a group of fighters who are viable at each weight class but everyone shouldnt.
              100% agree. In quick fight... You can beat anyone with CM Punk. In Division 4... You can use lower level fighters and win often. If you're using a bad fighter in the highest division on the game... That is entirely on you if you're struggling. You should be.

              Originally posted by Thetruth11
              No emotion just facts
              People cry about flaws but when somebody states the problem behind it that's not to their liking they makeup bs

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              Bro... You literally said you beat up the Diaz brothers irl. Stop. lol.

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              • Thetruth11
                Banned
                • Feb 2018
                • 474

                #652
                Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                Originally posted by Serengeti95
                100% agree. In quick fight... You can beat anyone with CM Punk. In Division 4... You can use lower level fighters and win often. If you're using a bad fighter in the highest division on the game... That is entirely on you if you're struggling. You should be.



                Bro... You literally said you beat up the Diaz brothers irl. Stop. lol.
                It was sparring but ok whatever I'm on topic you clearly are hurt about being wrong earlier it's just a game bud
                We all the messed up stats and perks make fighters unusable
                Why is osp chin the same as rampage

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                • Freshly Baked Gregg
                  Pro
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 605

                  #653
                  Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                  I’m so sick of uppercutting people as they duck and hooking the as they sway and doing no substantial damage.

                  Meanwhile they’re attacking the body when I miss because of their sways and my stamina gets reduced to nothing.


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                  • Serengeti1
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 1720

                    #654
                    Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                    Originally posted by Thetruth11
                    It was sparring but ok whatever I'm on topic you clearly are hurt about being wrong earlier it's just a game bud
                    We all the messed up stats and perks make fighters unusable
                    Why is osp chin the same as rampage

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                    Wrong? Your opinion is that I'm wrong. That doesn't make it so. That's not how it works. I'm not going back and forth on it again in this thread. Especially when it's already been established you don't know what you're talking about and have spoken about beating up UFC fighters and boxing champions lol.

                    There is a side to your argument. You just don't know what it is. Leave it to the people who understand what it is man.

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                    • Thetruth11
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 474

                      #655
                      Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                      Originally posted by Serengeti95
                      Wrong? Your opinion is that I'm wrong. That doesn't make it so. That's not how it works. I'm not going back and forth on it again in this thread. Especially when it's already been established you don't know what you're talking about and have spoken about beating up UFC fighters and boxing champions lol.

                      There is a side to your argument. You just don't know what it is. Leave it to the people who understand what it is man.
                      Oh yup your mentally challenged you can't even read never said I've beat up anybody but ok
                      I know for a fact your fight iq is terrible by your suggestions.
                      Like I said people who know me seen footage
                      I'm not going back and forth with you clown.


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                      • SMOKEZERO
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 818

                        #656
                        The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        I actually had a discussion with a gamechanger about this a while back. He wanted to be able to use Saki in ranked but his grappling is so poor it would equal an auto loss at the top levels. The was asking for a grappling buff (nothing huge) so that he would be more viable at that level.



                        My response was that Saki had shown any grappling skills (yet) so buffing him wouldnt be realistic and it would be unfair to rank him over fighters who while not great at grappling have shown more skill there.



                        My view is that everyone shouldnt be viable at the top levels of ranked. Why? Because people are simply looking to win at that level and will always gravitate toward the best fighters. Now there should always be a group of fighters who are viable at each weight class but everyone shouldnt.


                        Totally agree Aholbert.
                        I was more concerned to programming NERFS and there effect on the lower tier fighters when all the balancing is happening in relation to tier 1 fighter vs tier 1 fighter. Example, let's take bantamweight. Cruz/Dillashaw/Garbrandt - excellent head movement. Hypothetically, let's say it gets nerfed along with the jab buffed across the board. Now tier 1 is balanced and the jab buff is nice for all fighters. But the head movement NERF has actually broke the fighters with poor head movement in the division from being defensively able as a result because the nerf was done with 97 head movement in mind. This is what I want to avoid.


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                        Last edited by SMOKEZERO; 03-11-2018, 06:45 PM.

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                        • Thetruth11
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 474

                          #657
                          Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                          Originally posted by SMOKEZERO
                          Totally agree Aholbert.
                          I was more concerned to programming NERFS and there effect on the lower tier fighters when all the balancing is happening in relation to tier 1 fighter vs tier 1 fighter. Example, let's take bantamweight. Cruz/Dillashaw/Garbrandt - excellent head movement. Hypothetically, let's say it gets nerfed along with the jab buffed across the board. Now tier 1 is balanced and the jab buff is nice for all fighters. But the head movement NERF has actually broke the fighters with poor head movement in the division from being defensively able as a result. This is what I want to avoid.


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                          Yeah I tested this with Daniel hooker
                          I could only sway the 3rd punch of a combination after blocking but with Frankie I could sway the the second

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                          • SMOKEZERO
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 818

                            #658
                            Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                            Originally posted by Thetruth11
                            Yeah I tested this with Daniel hooker
                            I could only sway the 3rd punch of a combination after blocking but with Frankie I could sway the the second

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                            Fantastic test. Breaking level nerfs is what's the concern.


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                            • Serengeti1
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 1720

                              #659
                              Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                              Originally posted by Thetruth11
                              Oh yup your mentally challenged you can't even read never said I've beat up anybody but ok
                              I know for a fact your fight iq is terrible by your suggestions.
                              Like I said people who know me seen footage
                              I'm not going back and forth with you clown.


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                              Let's agree to disagree.

                              EDIT: you can have the rematch when you're ready tho.
                              Last edited by Serengeti1; 03-11-2018, 07:25 PM.

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                              • EarvGotti
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 2249

                                #660
                                Re: The strongest punishment to side sway spam

                                Just for clarity purposes are you guys saying the backstep(left stick) is OP or the back lunge(L1+left stick)?
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