The strongest punishment to side sway spam

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

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Bonus:

The Dan Hooker example is the best. Ross Pearson moves his head a lot and Dan threw the knee as he ducked.


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[Freshly Baked Gregg]

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After testing this out, back dashes are 100% another exploit. So great, we have it going in both directions now. But, I still won't concede that ranked is a back dash fest. Yet. I'm sure by the next two days everyone will have caught on leading to a total breakdown in the meta. I'm hoping a tuner can be released before then.

It’s happened to me once I think. Side lunges too. I simply could not hit them, is that what’s exploitative about it or is it something else?


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[SMOKEZERO]

The strongest punishment to side sway spam

Bonus:

All of these are from damaged and tired fighters into the 3rd round. Weidman was shooting and that’s fine, but Zhunter said “instant death” on ducks from knees. Round 1, full health/stamina and you want death? Lol no. I never said a ko shouldn’t happen in this scenario to be clear. It can be buffed, but it’s honestly fine as is. The gifs are highlights, but you can find hundreds of ducking knees getting ate in random exchanges from fights.


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[aholbert32]

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Oh, so sways are no longer OP, but backdash is? So we’re going to force the 50/50 and make the lower tier trash even more so? Whatever


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I don’t even out know what you are talking about. One of the gcs identified the back dash issue a week ago and gpd started looking into it. That’s a good thing.

That doesn’t mean he isn’t working to fix other issues with the game.


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[johnmangala]

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All of these are from damaged and tired fighters into the 3rd round. Weidman was shooting and that’s fine, but Zhunter said “instant death” on ducks from knees. Round 1, full health/stamina and you want death? Lol no. I never said a ko shouldn’t happen in this scenario to be clear. It can be buffed, but it’s honestly fine as is.


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That's probably not what he meant.

But even then, it's not without precedent.

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I wish head movement had more vulerablity like lunges have when caught.

[Kenetic NRG]

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Retracted is actually on Xbox.

Again tho... I agree that back dashes drain stamina too easily. I just think fighting at distance and managing distance was done way better in UFC 2 than it is in this game. A big part of the problem is moving at the same speed while blocking every shot coming at your head. Irl... You just cannot do that.

Oh my bad, I thought he played both and went back to PS4. Havent ran into him in a long time on xbox, shame too cause he was pretty good when we fought.

[iceberg3445]

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I have a feeling part of the reason there is hesitation is because they made this cool new system and want it to be used often.


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I have a feeling this might be the case.

Head movement is definitely used in MMA, but a lot of it is reactive (not predictive) and it’s not without its risks. Hard to put in a video game. Slight stamina tax and hooks/uppercut damage boosts would serve as a good balance.

Head movement does have use, but mostly against predictable opponents or combination spammers. A slight stamina tax on sways won’t kill anybody, just make head movement more calculated.



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[RetractedMonkey]

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Oh my bad, I thought he played both and went back to PS4. Havent ran into him in a long time on xbox, shame too cause he was pretty good when we fought.

I'm LemusKhan on ESFL too. I mostly have been playing around on quick match lately trying different play styles out. I haven't been set on how I want to play yet. I mainly dabble on ranked on my 5Lemurs account in low Div 5. Probably why you haven't run into me.

[SMOKEZERO]

The strongest punishment to side sway spam

I don’t even out know what you are talking about. One of the gcs identified the back dash issue a week ago and gpd started looking into it. That’s a good thing.

That doesn’t mean he isn’t working to fix other issues with the game.


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I’m all for balance. Who here is talking about using the lowest tier fighters online against the highest? You don’t even play online so I don’t expect you to understand. Maybe jump in if even casually? I was under the impression from GPD that the backdash stamina was intended from his earlier post buried here somewhere.


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[Serengeti1]

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Who here is talking about using the lowest tier fighters online against the highest?

This is your decision mate. If you want to have a disadvantage that is your prerogative. I don't understand why you're complaining about it. I think the skill vs realism thing is currently fine how it is.

[SMOKEZERO]

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I have a feeling this might be the case.

Head movement is definitely used in MMA, but a lot of it is reactive (not predictive) and it’s not without its risks. Hard to put in a video game. Slight stamina tax and hooks/uppercut damage boosts would serve as a good balance.

Head movement does have use, but mostly against predictable opponents or combination spammers. A slight stamina tax on sways won’t kill anybody, just make head movement more calculated.



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UFC 3
Stand up = predictive
Ground = reactive


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[SMOKEZERO]

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This is your decision mate. If you want to have a disadvantage that is your prerogative. I don't understand why you're complaining about it. I think the skill vs realism thing is currently fine how it is.

My prerogative has nothing to do with it bud. Just consider the game isn't only 4 fighters per division. A skill gap should be viable to beat a stat gap is all.


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[Thetruth11]

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My prerogative has nothing to do with it bud. Just consider the game isn't only 4 fighters per division. A skill gap should be viable to beat a stat gap is all.


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It's useless you can't get through to stubbornness
The guys who can't adapt will ruin the game crying

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[Serengeti1]

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My prerogative has nothing to do with it bud. Just consider the game isn't only 4 fighters per division. A skill gap should be viable to beat a stat gap is all.


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You're playing ranked against people of a similar skill level to you though.

[Serengeti1]

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It's useless you can't get through to stubbornness
The guys who can't adapt will ruin the game crying

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We can get some more fights in if you want. Just take it to the fight club thread.

did you upload the vid? i didn't see it

Yh. I posted it in the other thread that got closed.