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  • OSUFan_88
    Outback Jesus
    • Jul 2004
    • 25642

    #916
    Re: Official CBA Thread

    Players are just trying to squeeze as much as they can and are making a powerplay. They know the NFL wants the preseason to start on time so they don't miss money and are willing to leverage it out for every last penny.
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    • Jr.
      Playgirl Coverboy
      • Feb 2003
      • 19171

      #917
      Re: Official CBA Thread

      Originally posted by N51_rob
      I think that it depends. Rookie QB: team will struggle. Lots of roster turnover: Team will struggle. Change in HC or coordinators team will struggle.
      So you're saying my Panthers should be good?
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      • N51_rob
        Faceuary!
        • Jul 2003
        • 14805

        #918
        Originally posted by Baughn3
        So you're saying my Panthers should be good?
        Good to have the option of drafting or trading Andrew Luck. :wink:

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        • Jr.
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          • Feb 2003
          • 19171

          #919
          Re: Official CBA Thread

          Originally posted by N51_rob
          Good to have the option of drafting or trading Andrew Luck. :wink:

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          They definitely wouldn't draft and keep Luck unfortunately. I wonder what they would be able to get in a trade. With the rookie cap, #1 picks are going to be much more desireable
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          • p_rushing
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 14514

            #920
            Re: Official CBA Thread

            Originally posted by mestevo
            Not sure where you read this, but an agreement in principle will probably be announced early next week, owners would vote Thursday. Lockout probably won't be lifted until they can arrange to get in front of the different judges and they accept the settlements.

            There will be lag between the new CBA and the start of the season as well so teams can prepare to open their doors and also learn the new rules.

            These cases mean nothing and wouldn't delay the start of the season. They will be settled and today details are out saying that the settlement will be included in the CBA.



            The sides in the NFL's labor dispute are amenable to rolling the remaining issues that are most problematic -- the settlement of the Brady vs. NFL antitrust lawsuit and the television "lockout insurance" damages case -- into a global settlement, sources familiar with the talks told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

            A global settlement would mean that those two cases, along with the retired players' lawsuit and all other legal issues, would be dropped if the players ratify a new collective bargaining agreement, which is expected to cover the next 10 seasons. That would be the quickest way to get the lockout lifted.

            If the remaining legal issues are not rolled into a global settlement, it would be a very bad sign, potentially even stopping progress.

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            • mestevo
              Gooney Goo Goo
              • Apr 2010
              • 19556

              #921
              Originally posted by p_rushing
              These cases mean nothing and wouldn't delay the start of the season. They will be settled and today details are out saying that the settlement will be included in the CBA.

              http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/67...nt-sources-say
              The cases still mean everything and are why there is a lockout to begin with, and hangups with any of them could stall progress if there are problems reaching a global settlement. It says that even in the last sentence you quoted.

              Either way my point is it is not moving as quickly as some think it is/will in this thread, the post I was replying to said there would have been an agreement over the weekend and the lockout will be lifted Thursday. That's never been true or expected.

              The league has scheduled a rules seminar contingent on the ratification of the new CBA Thursday. It's unlikely free agency will open just 48 hours after that.

              Here's one schedule the talking heads have gone over recently:

              4 days after the ratification: Teams will be able to sign undrafted players. On the same day, teams will get a three-day window to re-sign their own players. It’s safe to say tampering will go nuts in this period as agents shop deals around.

              7 days after ratification: Free agency starts. So does the league year. A lot of huge deals figure to be signed within hours. Magic.

              12 days after ratification: Rosters will be set at 90 players. That’s a lot of signing in a very short amount of time.

              13 days after ratification: Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets. (We’re assuming RFAs will only be third year players at this point, but that isn’t confirmed.)

              17 days after ratification: A four-day period for teams to match restricted free-agent offer sheets ends.

              22 days after ratification: This one isn’t agreed upon, but it could be a deadline for rookies to sign. Um, wow. This unprecedented idea is something we’ll delve into later.

              26 days after ratification: The signing period for RFAs, franchise players, and transition tag players ends.
              Last edited by mestevo; 07-18-2011, 02:28 PM.

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              • da ThRONe
                Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                • Mar 2009
                • 8528

                #922
                Re: Official CBA Thread

                Originally posted by mestevo
                The cases still mean everything and are why there is a lockout to begin with, and hangups with any of them could stall progress if there are problems reaching a global settlement. It says that even in the last sentence you quoted.

                Either way my point is it is not moving as quickly as some think it is/will in this thread, the post I was replying to said there would have been an agreement over the weekend and the lockout will be lifted Thursday. That's never been true or expected.

                The league has scheduled a rules seminar contingent on the ratification of the new CBA Thursday. It's unlikely free agency will open just 48 hours after that.

                Here's one schedule the talking heads have gone over recently:
                I thought the lawsuit were filed after the lockout?
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                • mestevo
                  Gooney Goo Goo
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19556

                  #923
                  Re: Official CBA Thread

                  Originally posted by da ThRONe
                  I thought the lawsuit were filed after the lockout?
                  The players sued the NFL for violating antitrust rules by imposing rules for a non-union labor pool (the Brady lawsuit). The league then locked them out so that they were not violating those rules.

                  The lockout insurance case was filed a year ago, but is being folded into this settlement. Presumably the NLRB complaint from the NFL would also be dropped. Basically all the litigious stuff involving labor strife will be settled/dropped as part of the new CBA.

                  These all represent points of leverage though where the players could try and get cash from the NFL to settle.

                  The biggest sticking point still today appears to be $320m in unpaid benefits due to the uncapped year, not any of the above legal stuff as far as I've read.

                  Here's a Mort/PFT recap of what is being worked through:

                  1. The players want $320 million in unpaid benefits during the uncapped year to be restored.

                  2. The players want the franchise tag to be limited to one year in use. Currently, teams can apply it for two years before the price of the tag rockets to the average of the five highest-paid quarterbacks, regardless of the position that the franchise player normally plays. (Obviously, if the player is a quarterback, it doesn’t matter.)

                  3. The 10 named plaintiffs must sign off on the settlement of the lawsuit. Some have speculated, possibly with more than speculation in their pockets, that Patriots guard Logan Mankins and/or Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson will want to be free agents, despite having been slapped with the franchise tag. Other named plaintiffs not due to become free agents in 2011 could want similar consideration. (I’ll elaborate and editorialize during Monday’s PFT Live, at 12:00 p.m. ET.)

                  4. The owners want to close the California loophole for workers’ compensation claims. Currently, a player can file in California, widely viewed as a very employee-friendly forum, if he has played only one game their during his career. As a result, plenty do; the NFL wants to compel the players to file for benefits in the state in which they played their home games when injured.

                  5. The “lockout insurance” case must be resolved. In May, Judge David Doty held a hearing on the question of the damages the NFL should pay for leaving money on the table in rights fees in order to persuade the networks to commit to paying billions during 2011, even if there’s no football. The players are entitled to 59.6 percent of whatever the league could have generated in 2009 and 2010 if the league had dropped the “lockout insurance” term. Mort suggests that the players will use this claim as leverage to get the $320 million in benefits that weren’t paid during the uncapped year.

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                  • Bondgirl0072
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1138

                    #924
                    Re: Official CBA Thread

                    via twitter

                    RT @AdamSchefter More progress: In the proposed CBA, retired players will get nearly $1 billion in additional benefits over 10-year life of the agreement.

                    RT @AdamSchefter One more retired players' benefit: New Legacy Fund will increase by $620 million over ten years.

                    RT @AdamSchefter A player rep said that, assuming the two sides have addressed unresolved issues, NFLPA is planning to vote Wednesday to approve settlement.
                    Last edited by Bondgirl0072; 07-18-2011, 04:36 PM.

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                    • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                      Next Miami Great
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4285

                      #925
                      Re: Official CBA Thread

                      yea hopefully........

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                      • drventure
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 75

                        #926
                        Re: Official CBA Thread



                        Source: NFLPA vote held up

                        NFL Players Association player representatives gave DeMaurice Smith and the executive committee a "vote of confidence" to finish the remaining deal points, a source told ESPN's Chris Mortensen, adding the committee will work tonight to try to resolve issues.

                        Part of the holdup in taking a vote, the source said, was that the player reps did not have a final document to review. The vote could take place by conference call or remote communication, very possibly tomorrow, according to the source, who seemed upbeat.

                        There were still roughly 20 player representatives in the NFLPA headquarters in Washington D.C. as of 5:30 p.m. ET.

                        A source tells ESPN's Sal Paolantonio that owners will meet as scheduled Thursday, regardless of whether the players vote, and decide then on the next course of action.

                        The NFL's Management Council Executive Committee, meanwhile, began meeting at 1 p.m. ET at an Atlanta airport hotel, an NFL spokesman said earlier Wednesday. Items on the agenda included discussion of the still-unfinished CBA, transition rules and a calendar for the start of the 2011 season, a source told Paolantonio.

                        Patriots owner Robert Kraft, a member of the 10-person committee, was absent due to the death of his wife, Myra, and according to Paolantonio, his son, Jonathan Kraft, will attend Thursday's meetings in his place. Jonathan Kraft is the president of the Patriots.

                        Both sides have agreed to add three additional provisions the new CBA, a league source told Paolantonio.

                        • Enhanced injury protection benefit -- In addition to a player's salary in the season he is injured, the player would get up to $1 million for the first year after the injury, and up to $500,000 the second year.

                        • Players get to stay in the league-sponsored player medical plan for life, if they so choose.

                        • An annual increase in minimum salaries for players -- 10 percent increase for rookies, 12 percent for second-year players ... and it continues throughout the life of the proposed 10-year CBA. That would mean a 10 percent increase in rookie salary for 2011 over the 2010 salary and then a 10 percent increase for rookies in 2012 salary over 2011 salary. Approximately 1,000 of the 1,890 NFL players in 2010 were minimum-salary players, according to the league.

                        Earlier Wednesday, NFLPA president Kevin Mawae said that the players won't be pressured into agreeing to a deal.

                        "We're not tied to a timeline of July 21 (when the owners are scheduled to meet in Atlanta). Our timeline is to get a deal that's best for the players -- today, tomorrow or whatever it might be," Mawae said.

                        One thing that shouldn't hold up a possible deal is special considerations to the 10 named plaintiffs in the Brady antitrust lawsuit against the NFL. The NFLPA decided the best course of action was to forgo special compensation for those 10 players as part of a settlement, sources confirmed to Schefter.

                        Mawae referenced this in his comments to reporters Wednesday.

                        "The deal we're working on is the one that's best for all the players in the NFL and not just four guys," he said.

                        It will take a majority vote of the players to ratify the deal. The owners would vote on the proposed CBA on Thursday if the players OK the deal Wednesday. Twenty-four of the 32 owners must cast "yes" votes for the CBA to be ratified.

                        The NFLPA's decision to not recommend special considerations for the named plaintiffs was first reported by the Boston Herald.

                        Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN. Information from ESPN national correspondent Sal Paolantonio and ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter contributed to this report.

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                        • Bellsprout
                          Hard Times.
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 25652

                          #927
                          Re: Official CBA Thread

                          I ain't scurred.

                          And I just saw Mort on SportsCenter reporting that the NFLPA's committee on this will continue work well into the night tonight and a vote could still happen, since they could vote via conference call.
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                          • wheelman990
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2233

                            #928
                            Re: Official CBA Thread

                            So more money for the millionaires while the stadium workers, parking crew, and the rest of the middle/low class get minimum wage yet again. Nothing new here at all. Same old same old. Glad they were all able to figure out the best way for the same people to make more money.....

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                            • mestevo
                              Gooney Goo Goo
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19556

                              #929
                              Originally posted by wheelman990
                              So more money for the millionaires while the stadium workers, parking crew, and the rest of the middle/low class get minimum wage yet again. Nothing new here at all. Same old same old. Glad they were all able to figure out the best way for the same people to make more money.....
                              Do you do one of those jobs? Seriously doubt any of them make min wage.

                              Also don't see their wages ever being made an issue... trolling?

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                              Last edited by mestevo; 07-20-2011, 08:20 PM.

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                              • TracerBullet
                                One Last Job
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 22119

                                #930
                                Re: Official CBA Thread

                                Originally posted by wheelman990
                                So more money for the millionaires while the stadium workers, parking crew, and the rest of the middle/low class get minimum wage yet again. Nothing new here at all. Same old same old. Glad they were all able to figure out the best way for the same people to make more money.....
                                Seeing as they had nothing to do with either party in the CBA negotiations, did you really expect someone to stand up for them?
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