The OS Golfer's Thread!

[pietasterp]

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There is no lag gene. You also should never focus on building lag because it is not a fundamental part of a successful golf swing.

Lag is built naturally from proper hip rotation and release. Anything more than that that is forced causes the golfer to over compensate by having to torque the hands and wrists to get through the hitting zone squarely, because the club is no longer being released naturally via the hip turn. This throws off timing and natural hand position that would be created by solid fundamentals.

I think what fistofrage was trying to say (not trying to put words in his mouth) is not that there's actually literally a "lag gene", but that some amount of lag comes from a properly sequenced swing (and therefore can be learned), but to get the extreme amounts of lag that guys like Rory and others have, there's some innate ability or body type/configuration or some otherwise unquantifiable factor that allows some guys to swing like that naturally and others to not be able to achieve those types of swings on a consistent basis. I think that's true as well.

Okay, but you aren't Ben Hogan. So naturally you aren't going to swing like him. Do you really think Ben Hogan was worrying about lag when he was swinging the golf club?

No, but I think that's what the point of the prior comment was - he just naturally had the ability to swing like that and achieve those hyper-acute angles during his downswing. I basically can't do that even if I intentionally tried to.

Here is just a friendly reminder that you don't need excessive lag to build club head speed and hit the ball far.

Good reminder. No need to obsess over it, and everyone's swing is different. I think it's taken me a long time to come to the realization that everyone else probably already knew, but that all of us have such different bodies - height, weight, proportions, hand size, flexibility, etc. - and natural tendencies, so no 2 people can swing the club exactly the same way. As long as the general fundamental principles are there, it's probably better to do what feels comfortable for you, since when you're standing on that 1st tee and 3 other groups waiting to tee off are watching you address the ball, you're going to go back to whatever your underlying swing is anyway...

[pietasterp]

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God, I have absolutely zero day-to-day consistency, and I've struggled with that my whole life. One day I hit the range and stripe everything, then the very next day it looks like I've never played golf in my life. Obviously there's something wrong w/ my swing if it's not repeatable enough for at least a modicum of consistency, but to go from hitting towering baby draws to topping every shot is just....baffling and infuriating. No idea sometimes.

[fistofrage]

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God, I have absolutely zero day-to-day consistency, and I've struggled with that my whole life. One day I hit the range and stripe everything, then the very next day it looks like I've never played golf in my life. Obviously there's something wrong w/ my swing if it's not repeatable enough for at least a modicum of consistency, but to go from hitting towering baby draws to topping every shot is just....baffling and infuriating. No idea sometimes.

Are you keeping your head down all the way through the shot? If you are topping it you most likely aren't staying down so either you are peeking or slightly straightening your back leg. I have seen this happen to some good golfers who have a decent bend in their back leg. They don't top every shot, but I saw a +2 golfer top 10 of his 14 drives before and I could see him straightening his back leg early in his swing.

I take my daughter to the range with me a lot and she records my swings. Ideally you can get someone to tape your swings on the good and bad days and you'll quickly see what is causing the problem.

[pietasterp]

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Are you keeping your head down all the way through the shot? If you are topping it you most likely aren't staying down so either you are peeking or slightly straightening your back leg. I have seen this happen to some good golfers who have a decent bend in their back leg. They don't top every shot, but I saw a +2 golfer top 10 of his 14 drives before and I could see him straightening his back leg early in his swing.

I take my daughter to the range with me a lot and she records my swings. Ideally you can get someone to tape your swings on the good and bad days and you'll quickly see what is causing the problem.

Interesting - I haven't thought of the back-leg straightening. I'll keep an eye on it - thanks for the tip. Worth thinking about, anyway - I'll check it out and let you know how it goes!

[Skyboxer]

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God, I have absolutely zero day-to-day consistency, and I've struggled with that my whole life. One day I hit the range and stripe everything, then the very next day it looks like I've never played golf in my life. Obviously there's something wrong w/ my swing if it's not repeatable enough for at least a modicum of consistency, but to go from hitting towering baby draws to topping every shot is just....baffling and infuriating. No idea sometimes.

Can't stress this enough but get analyze software (V1 is what I have) and do some taping when on range.

The last time I went from pure to piss I taped a session and even though I would have swore I was still on plane (for me a slight inside out swing) the video showed I was over the top.
Can't explain it at all. In my mind I was doing the same thing I always did but shanking..slicing etc...was happening.

So did the videoing and it was an eye opener.
This also is what led to seeing exactly what I was doing wrong with driver.

In the end it really made me slow down before a round now and go through my swing and reinforce that I am on plane.
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Anywho...
Got up a little while ago (Work nights so it's always a struggle getting turned around to do day stuff) and will be on road at 5am for our charity tourney.
Hope the practicing this week pays off...
Excited

[Skyboxer]

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Are you keeping your head down all the way through the shot? If you are topping it you most likely aren't staying down so either you are peeking or slightly straightening your back leg. I have seen this happen to some good golfers who have a decent bend in their back leg. They don't top every shot, but I saw a +2 golfer top 10 of his 14 drives before and I could see him straightening his back leg early in his swing.

I take my daughter to the range with me a lot and she records my swings. Ideally you can get someone to tape your swings on the good and bad days and you'll quickly see what is causing the problem.

Topping also (from experience) can be setting up a bit too far from ball.. causing a reaching action. (Talking about irons BTW)

I only ever top driver if it's tee'd too low, too forward or like you stated ..raising up etc..

[Skyboxer]

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SUCCESS!!!

So while we didn't win as with every BB tourney a group comes in with a unGodly number.. we did finish -1 (71)

The weird thing was we parred everything except a 5 hole stretch where we went bogey, birdie, birdie, birdie bogey.
The 2nd WTF stat was both bogies were par 3's lol

Now to my day. Only lost 1 ball and that was one of the par 3's (175 I believe) where a pulled it. Green it a shared green and is huge but I yanked her a bit and was wet.

My driving was for the first time ever for a whole round very consistent. Either on fairway or offline 10 15 yards.
The best shots I had all day were from my freaking 3W! I was dead nuts with it all day.
The best one by far was a par 5. Drive left us roughly 220-230 out from a green with trees and crap to the right in between us.
The green is also about 10 yard lower than the main fairway.

The safe play is to go to the fairway on right then a safe approach into green.
The first 2 guys on our team went safe route so we'd have a safe look into green.
The the next guy tried for the green and duffed his about 15 yards.
I proceeded to nail my 3W to about 15 yards from pin.
We 2 putted for birdie.

Needless to say I was very happy about the way I played and really hope I can keep it up.

[RoundingThird]

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Playing this afternoon at my home course with a friend of mine that I haven't seen for a while. I'm ready to have a big day.

I was out practicing last night, and I was hitting the ball farther and straighter than I ever have before. I had a lesson last week, and the guy completely rebuilt my swing. Last night, I was hitting 290 yard drives, at least a 50 or 60 yard difference from my longest drive ever on an actual course. I feel really confident and today should go well.

[fistofrage]

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Got out of work early last night and hit the course. Ended up shooting a 76 with a triple on a par 3 and 4 birdies. The triple was brutal, 200 yard par 3, I pulled out a hybrid and put it into a right greenside bunker when I got up there it was fried egged underneath the lip. Almost an unplayable lie. Only choice was to open a 60 up to the sky and hit under it and dig out. I popped it out and it looked pretty good but it caught the slope right next to the green and rolled sideways into another bunker. came out a little strong and just put it over the green chipped on missed a 6 footer and next thing you know it was a 6. Then I went birdie, par, birdie, par, par, birdie. To erase it in what might have been my best 6 hole stretch ever. That was alot of work to erase one errant tee shot.

Finished with 32 putts and a couple of drives over 300. One was wind aided and a bit down hill that went 326 and another on a 340 yard par 4 slight dogleg that put me about 30 yards off the green.

Definitely putting my drives out there lately. Reached a 500 yard par 5 in 2, pin high right fringe and my approach shots on all the par 4's were 8 iron or less except for 2 six irons into 2 of the greens.

Getting close, I have never peaked this early in the year hopefully I'll keep progressing. Not trying to kill the ball and taking it back to what I think is about 80% is paying huge dividends.

[Ruffy]

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I actually have been watching the 10 free videos that Hank Haney offers...there is some decent free info in them and I don't ever plan on joining is website and paying a monthly fee or buying his swing aid etc.

I'm actually surprised he has this type of aggressive marketing as you get a ton of emails pushing his product but I only watch the free ones and delete every thing else.

I used to be a break 90 type of player...good days shoot mid 80's and bad days shoot 90's. But as i got older (and plumper) my game (except for my putting) has completely left me at times. My game has gotten to if im good i shoot mid 90s and usually can't crack 100s ughh. Confidence to play the game is fleeting every year as I get less time to play and when I do get out I spend it popping up tee shots and duffs and chunks mixed in. Frustrating when you know you used to shoot low 90s consistently.

I have never been able to hit a driver, I always use a 3W which is a huge disadvantage distance wise although it is obviously usually accurate. Even when I was a decent player I'd hit a driver the exact same distance of my 3W and obviously it was never as accurate so I went back to the 3W always.

Hank's videos has helped me out for my first round of the year. Swing FASTER not HARDER! Sounds simple but just telling myself that on the tee box I was hitting some very solid 3Ws and hitting fairways. I scored 105 but played much better than I scored. Struck the ball well enough to be a low 90s score. Some chips and some distance on short irons cost me strokes. Plus I don't cheat (counting all your shots is something some guys just don't do).

Looking forward to taking some of his tips and getting out again soon. I am likely finally going to get a few lessons this year as I have never had any and have always wondered if a few tips on set-up and grip can help me get the confidence to hit the driver and get the extra yardage I need off the tee to get my scores lower.

[Skyboxer]

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Wife got me a GoPro... Not sure if keeping or not but plan to take it out Tuesday and play with it some on course.

[Ruffy]

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Wife got me a GoPro... Not sure if keeping or not but plan to take it out Tuesday and play with it some on course.

I'd love to hear a good review on one....was thinking of asking for one for my 40th b-day this summer.

[Skyboxer]

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I'd love to hear a good review on one....was thinking of asking for one for my 40th b-day this summer.

I mainly talked about getting one just for the "fun" of it when me and my friend start getting out after he's done with school this year.
Just to have some vids to look back on.

My plan is to have it on the cart then get behind our shots to capture.
Going to have it quick release set up so once we get to no cart area I can snap it to either my small tripod or the flat stand. Capture putts rolling etc...

I wasn't getting a 400 or 500 one. She got the new entry level one for 129.99 but I didn't want that as it has a 32GB card limit AND built in battery with no way of swapping them out.

So I got the Hero3 White version and an extra battery

As far as mounts I have the ones that came with it and got the tripod adaptor mount but really wanted to check out the Clamp mount. Wasn't paying 49.99 for it though lol

Seen some DIY clamps on YT and went to Lowes and got a 3.00 spring clamp and made my own. Really stable too..

Going to have a quick release on it so I can just pop it off clamp when we get to green etc.. and snap on flat mount to sit on green on in front of bunker etc...

It also came with a skeleton back door you can switch it to on nice days to get clearer audio PLUS it has external mic support if you want (Just need the 3.5 cable adaptor to plug into the GoPro) but I am not real concerned with audio much so maybe with the skeleton door on it will be fine.
It's no longer waterproof with skel door but I don't plan on any dives in the near future

I'll probably keep it but have 14 more days to return.

[donkey33]

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I got a free sony action cam a few months back with a camera purchase and have used it on the course a few times. It's kind of fun.

Can sit it behind a putt and capture one drop, behind the swing or anywhere really. Has a 120 frame super slow capture mode which is really good if you want to see your swing for fixes.

I think you'll enjoy it. Great on the range too for swing improvements.

[Skyboxer]

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I got a free sony action cam a few months back with a camera purchase and have used it on the course a few times. It's kind of fun.

Can sit it behind a putt and capture one drop, behind the swing or anywhere really. Has a 120 frame super slow capture mode which is really good if you want to see your swing for fixes.

I think you'll enjoy it. Great on the range too for swing improvements.

Yeah I think I'll have fun with it.
For the Sony one...I had one of them about 6 months or so ago and never opened it. It was an impulse buy during a sale...
Still have a tilt adaptor I got free when buying. I didn't return it and BB didn't catch it.
It has I beleive 1/4 threads so going to see if I can get on my DIY clamp for more flexibility