The OS Golfer's Thread!

[pietasterp]

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Does anyone have any experience with the Arccos Caddy sensors?

Saw Taylor Made was giving them away free to anyone who bought TM clubs this year along with I think a three year subscription so went ahead and got them (nothing to lose).

Just curious if anyone has tried them?

A good friend got some and likes them, although in his opinion, the stat-tracking and accuracy isn't "quite there yet". Whatever that means, but I interpreted it as everything kinda works but not with the ease and accuracy that it should. And also having to put all those things on your grips was apparently not the best. But he likes it all-in-all.

For $0 I think it might be a reasonable value proposition.

[kehlis]

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A good friend got some and likes them, although in his opinion, the stat-tracking and accuracy isn't "quite there yet". Whatever that means, but I interpreted it as everything kinda works but not with the ease and accuracy that it should. And also having to put all those things on your grips was apparently not the best. But he likes it all-in-all.

For $0 I think it might be a reasonable value proposition.

Thank you!

And the bolded part is actually what I'm worried about the most. I'll give them a shot and see if it impedes me. I get to try the app for free for the rest of the season and if I don't like them will just cancel the subscription.

[Skyboxer]

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Thank you!

And the bolded part is actually what I'm worried about the most. I'll give them a shot and see if it impedes me. I get to try the app for free for the rest of the season and if I don't like them will just cancel the subscription.

I've used the Game Golf system as well as Shotscope.
Getting sensors in wasn't that bad and didn't really didn't bother me at all while playing.

I liked the shotscope as the sensors were read by the watch you wear instead of having to carry your phone....as I think you have to do with Arccos. The wqatch was a bit too big though and did bother me a tad.

Honest opinion is it's nice to get some data (like where your approach misses are .. distances etc..) but after a while I stopped using the system. If you want to keep on tracking data though long term they are nice systems.

[BDKiiing]

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Does anyone have any experience with the Arccos Caddy sensors?

Saw Taylor Made was giving them away free to anyone who bought TM clubs this year along with I think a three year subscription so went ahead and got them (nothing to lose).

Just curious if anyone has tried them?

I personally haven't used them. But know plenty of people who do. From my understanding it's actually incredibly accurate, and for most people gives them an actual view of how far they hit clubs. It's a lot of data that you receive. So if you're into the numbers side of it, then I'd say they are absolutely worth going with. Once you've collected enough data it can essentially club you on the shots you have. It's like getting some of the data of a range session or fitting every time you play.

[kehlis]

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I've used the Game Golf system as well as Shotscope.
Getting sensors in wasn't that bad and didn't really didn't bother me at all while playing.

I liked the shotscope as the sensors were read by the watch you wear instead of having to carry your phone....as I think you have to do with Arccos. The wqatch was a bit too big though and did bother me a tad.

Honest opinion is it's nice to get some data (like where your approach misses are .. distances etc..) but after a while I stopped using the system. If you want to keep on tracking data though long term they are nice systems.

I personally haven't used them. But know plenty of people who do. From my understanding it's actually incredibly accurate, and for most people gives them an actual view of how far they hit clubs. It's a lot of data that you receive. So if you're into the numbers side of it, then I'd say they are absolutely worth going with. Once you've collected enough data it can essentially club you on the shots you have. It's like getting some of the data of a range session or fitting every time you play.

Thanks guys. I actually read a lot more on them today since they arrived and wanted to understand what I was getting into before installing.

I was interested in the after round data but had no idea how much in round info they provide. Almost seems like a cheat code.

That said, part of the fun of golf to me is club selection after calculating for temperature, wind, conditions, etc. This seems to take all that out of your hands after enough play.

Three years ago I started carrying a notebook in my back pocket when I play and track everything for every iron shot 100 yds out that this tracks. I write down the yardage/lie, the club I"m going to use, the wind impact, and then the result. It's helped immensely.

I'll be curious to see how this goes and will try it for the rest of the year. I also see that if I do like it I can actually get grips with the sensor just installed in it so it isn't the eye sore it currently is.

[pietasterp]

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Yeah, I'm told the data you get is pretty rich/detailed. They have a version where you wear a little beeper/pager thing on your belt and you can tap/communicate the clubs with that instead of your phone after every shot. I'm sure once you get used to it, it's no big deal, but the thought of having to do that for every shot is annoying to me. But I am a bit of a data nerd, so I'd be interested to hear your experiences with it.

[kehlis]

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Yeah, I'm told the data you get is pretty rich/detailed. They have a version where you wear a little beeper/pager thing on your belt and you can tap/communicate the clubs with that instead of your phone after every shot. I'm sure once you get used to it, it's no big deal, but the thought of having to do that for every shot is annoying to me. But I am a bit of a data nerd, so I'd be interested to hear your experiences with it.

I’ve always played with my Apple Watch on so I’m good there and don’t need to carry the phone anymore. I really don’t think I could do that.

I’ll bring some impressions back after this weekend but looks like I may not get to use the putter because my putting grip with my Super Stroke isn’t compatible without another tool because I have extra weight added to my grip. I haven’t decided yet and might do it but the only other workaround is to cut the part of the sensor off that screws into the club and tape it on with electrical tape.

The sensors are only $5 each so I may try it but not sure how I feel about putting electrical tape on my putter.

[pietasterp]

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The sensors are only $5 each so I may try it but not sure how I feel about putting electrical tape on my putter.

I have electrical tape on my putter, but it's because the bottom of the grip is peeling off.

It looks terrible and I get ragged on by my buddies all the time about it.

[kehlis]

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I have electrical tape on my putter, but it's because the bottom of the grip is peeling off.

It looks terrible and I get ragged on by my buddies all the time about it.

So I went ahead and went with it but I put athletic tape on top of the electrical tape lol. Right now my putter looks like the butt end of a goalie stick.

[pietasterp]

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So I went ahead and went with it but I put athletic tape on top of the electrical tape lol. Right now my putter looks like the butt end of a goalie stick.

Hey, if you get useful data to help your game, it's all worth it.

I need new sticks...my clubs are all 10-15 years old. This is going to sound very old man of me, but man...new clubs have gotten really expensive.

[kehlis]

The OS Golfer's Thread!

I’ve always played with my Apple Watch on so I’m good there and don’t need to carry the phone anymore. I really don’t think I could do that.



I’ll bring some impressions back after this weekend but looks like I may not get to use the putter because my putting grip with my Super Stroke isn’t compatible without another tool because I have extra weight added to my grip. I haven’t decided yet and might do it but the only other workaround is to cut the part of the sensor off that screws into the club and tape it on with electrical tape.



The sensors are only $5 each so I may try it but not sure how I feel about putting electrical tape on my putter.

So I got a few rounds in with the Arccos this weekend.



Please note that overall, I can't provide a full list of pro's yet because I don't yet have enough holes played yet for it to really reach it's peak of post round analytics and in round assistance. You need 90 holes before I can start getting "caddy" advice and the sample size is still too small to really give me much of an idea about how useful the analytics will be.





Cons:



My watch battery ran out after about 14 holes in our first round. For the second round I found some things I can disable on the watch to minimize this but still didn't completely mitigate as my watch batter died after my drive on 18 for the second round.



The manual shot tracking. Not really a huge issue but you have to check your phone after every hole because it won't capture all of your putts and you will have to add penalties. I'm not going to complain about either of them because there is no way it could account for a tap in or a gimmie, nor could it account for me hitting a shot after taking a drop.



The technology is based on GPS and where you've hit your first shot compared to where you hit your next shot. The only "semi" issue with this is that it can throw off your yardage for a club.



I'm going to try and share a picture from the dashboard below and cross my fingers that it loads here. If you look at this, it would look like I made par but I had to go in after and add a penalty so it's actually a bogey.



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THe analytics it provides are really cool but without accurate shot tracking it just isn't accurate and Arccos just doesn't seem to be there yet. There were too many shots I had to manually add.





It does nothing with putting. Once you hit the green that's it so it provides stats like strokes saved and average distance for first putt to the hole but they aren't accurate because it doesn't know exactly where the hole is unless I walk up to it every hole and mark the location with my watch every time (not doing that).



The biggest problem I had with it was after the first round I had reconciled the entire round at the course to make sure it was accurate. Occasionally I had to add a manual shot which doing so in the moment while I still remembered was fine.



The score, the overlays of the hole and everything looked to be accurate.



However, when I got home and tried to look back, half the shots from my first round were gone. I shot an 89 and only 55 were recorded. That doesn't in an of itself frustrate me except for the fact that I had gone in after every hole to make sure it was correct.



Only qualifier I will share and I hope this is the cause is that we were in the "mountains" of Maryland and cell service was awful.





Pros:



It's still early but I love the true distances it provides for each club. It's a bit humbling at time (like reviews suggested) but can be really helpful. That is an aspect that can really help my game.



It gives the range for each club and does a good job of scrubbing out mis-hits. Really cool to see. Excited to see how that shows up after enough rounds.



Its still a really small sample so it's important for me to wait a bit until relying on the current data but one example I can give is that currently it has me hitting my 7 further than my 6, which while it doesn't make sense, it's always been pretty accurate for me.





For the holes that did track, the overhead view of each hole is really cool. I hope that I can share a screen from my phone since I can't get the one to upload here.



It doesn't necessarily help my game but I'm someone that does like to replay my round and think about things I could have or should have done differently.



The sensors didn't bother me at all. I didn't even notice them so that was a positive.



My phone battery was hardly touched so it really just drained the watch.



I'll wait until I get enough rounds to really know if it will benefit me or not but for now I will probably renew for next year if for no other reason than to get more of a sample size before truly deciding.


Okay, phone was behaving so here is a few more sample screens (don't judge! Small sample size)

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Complete unexpected plot twist though. The trip was for my 40th birthday and my brother actually got me the Blast Golf sensor which is what I really need as it's a swing/pace analyzer. So now I have another toy to try.

[jb12780]

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Those look extremely tempting but as a fellow Apple Watch user (I use Golfshot for distances, tried a range finder and hated it), the quick drain on the watch would be problematic.


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[kehlis]

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Those look extremely tempting but as a fellow Apple Watch user (I use Golfshot for distances, tried a range finder and hated it), the quick drain on the watch would be problematic.


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Agreed. I'm going to go get the belt clip to try that out instead of tracking the shot with the watch. Having the microphone on so long is what kills the battery so fast.

If the belt clip is too intrusive I would have to bring a portable charger for the watch and that would just be a pain.

[pietasterp]

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Thanks for the detailed thoughts/write-up on your Arccos experience, kehlis! I think your experience is a much more thorough and informative summary of what people I know who have used the system convey. It's really good but not 100% quite 'there' yet with accuracy.

But I think after you get a sufficient number of rounds in, it probably gets much more useful (as you alluded to).

Also, I would kill to hit a 7-iron 170+ with any consistency. You're at least a club longer than me across the board!

[kehlis]

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Thanks for the detailed thoughts/write-up on your Arccos experience, kehlis! I think your experience is a much more thorough and informative summary of what people I know who have used the system convey. It's really good but not 100% quite 'there' yet with accuracy.

But I think after you get a sufficient number of rounds in, it probably gets much more useful (as you alluded to).

Also, I would kill to hit a 7-iron 170+ with any consistency. You're at least a club longer than me across the board!

Have no fear, with three more rounds in over the weekend a lot has changed lol.

My 7 is down to 159 which is closer to what it actually is. The sample size of shots really matters. Conditions this weekend were in really heavy air which hurt my distances versus my first weekend with the arccos when balls were flying.

I have a trip to Ocean City next week where I will finally have enough rounds in to be able to utilize the caddy suggestion so that will be the big determining factor for me if it's something I want to continue with.

The overhead views are still really cool to see but I had to go in and edit so many holes after the fact that it's getting really annoying. And this is after getting the belt link (not really intrusive at all). I felt that the watch was far more accurate than the link but we'll see.

I'm still not at a point where I would recommend it. It's cool to see the stats it shows me but with the inaccuracies at times I do question their accuracies.

I'm excited to see if the caddy suggestion works for me. That's pretty much the make or break point for me right now because I'm not seeing much "true" value out of the other things.