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Most players SHOULD be playing from the reds/golds/other more forward tees.
I spent over 3.5 hours playing nine holes last weekend with my father-in-law because groups ahead who sprayed all their tee shots into the woods were playing from the tips. They'd then spend 5-10 minutes looking for their ball, then punch their shots out, then duff their approach, etc. It took them forever because they made the course play much longer than they could handle. But, for "reasons", they had to play from the blues.
We were about to make the turn, but 4 groups were just standing around the No. 10 tee box in line, waiting for their turn to play. We went back to the clubhouse and got a rain check, since it would have been, at best, a 7 hour round and we had stuff to do.
I follow these guidelines...I usually fall within the white tees, or whatever tees play about 5,800-6,000 yards:
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Lack of enforcement of pace-of-play and the general American golf culture is a serious problem with growing the game. I love golf as much as anyone I've ever met, but I don't want to be out there for more than 4 hours to play 18 holes. In the UK, I've noticed that they take pace-of-play seriously, and will shame you into hurrying up or leaving the course without hesitation if you're way out of position. But more importantly, the need to do that just doesn't arise as much because the golfing culture there is very much in line with the idea that everyone should get around the course in <4 hrs.
The problem in America is that there's a serious entitlement problem at the public courses (the private courses are a different story, which I can't comment on because I haven't played any). People think "well, I paid my money, so I should be able to stay out here and play at my own pace all day long", and the golf courses think they have no financial incentive to enforce pace of play. Also, most people don't like confrontation, so there is no ranger who is just there for the free golf (I can only assume it's not for the remuneration) that wants to get into an argument with anyone about their pace of play.
Anyway TL;DR version is pace-of-play is a massive issue with golf in the US and in my opinion is a serious impediment to growing the game.
On a different note, have any of you gone to somewhere like TrueSpec to do a 'high end' club fitting? I'm sort of curious, because most of the club fittings I've seen or been a part of are pretty disappointing. The people doing the fitting don't really know anything, or they know like 1-2 things that they just shoehorn everyone into, and it doesn't end up being a worthwhile use of time. I've seen fittings at all the major golf store chains, GolfTec, PGA Tour Superstore, other 'name-brand' places, and it's all more-or-less the same. I'm wondering if it's worth it to go somewhere where that's literally all they do(?)Comment
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Agreed with the enforcement of pace of play...there are courses that I have played where they really, really enforce it...almost too much.
I played a course that let me and my group out in a five-some...we told them we'd be playing a best-ball scramble to keep pace of play and were less than 5 minutes behind the pace according to the on-cart GPS screen, yet they sent out their ranger multiple times to scold us, despite there being minimal wait times for groups behind us. We actually were being held up by the group ahead of us a few times, so I don't think we were the ones slowing things down.
But in the specific example I mentioned in the previous post, there was a "marshal" driving around on a cart, but he didn't do anything. Chit-chatted with a couple groups, but no enforcement of the logjam I was in. Don't really understand the point of having a marshal, if they don't do anything.
Most courses seem to fall into that later category...if there is a marshal, they don't do much. And most places don't even have anyone to monitor pace of play it seems.Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 07-06-2022, 12:05 PM.Orbis Non SuficitComment
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I was a 2 - 3 handicap for years, and haven't play a Club tournament in 30 years. I just couldn't stomach 5 to 6 hours rounds, and ending up with 3 foursomes at the same tee box because of slow play. And while I'm at it, nothing infuriated me more than lining up a putt and having 3 markers all inside 1 foot around the hole. Tap the f thing in, we're not playing for millions of $.Comment
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What I did my last two rounds (88 and 92), was I played from the middle tees from the holes with double digit stroke index, and on the single digit ones I played from the reds. Really enjoyed myself.
My home course is only 5500 from the middle tees and is a 66.7/118
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FYI - some decent Amazon Prime Days deals out there on golf stuff if you're looking to upgrade or add to your bag.
Just bought the Precision Pro NX7 Slope rangefinder, which is MyGolfSpy's best value rangefinder for 3 straight years, for just $119.Orbis Non SuficitComment
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Finally got back into golf with my brother, we have been hitting the driving range atleast once a week. Just wish it wasn't so darn hot out!
I have a question for you guys... How many of you feel like/try to hit the ball as hard as you can (100% power) every shot? He is struggling mightily with his driver and I can tell he is just trying to destroy the ball. I tell him to just try and take a nice smooth swing (80%) but he isn't having any of it. He watches the pros and thinks he will also be able to drill it 350 yards
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Swinging as hard as you can is fine, provided you hit the center of the clubface with a square face. My opinion is that until you can do that consistently, find a swing speed that gets you close to a middle-sweet-spot hit more often than not, then you can dial it up from there.
But I know nothing about golf, so there's no reason to listen to me. Probably worth getting some lessons just to get some fundamentals down.Comment
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Show him videos of Fred Couples and Ernie Els... and they were hitting it as long as anybody.Comment
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Agreed, but the thing is, those guys swing hard - it just doesn't look like it because they're so smooth and in-sequence. I saw a video of Fred Couples where he basically said (and I'm paraphrasing) that he is swinging has hard as he can, but he knows that it doesn't look like it. He's just doing it at the right moment and in-sequence.Comment
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That's the answer right there. As a golf club fitter I see thousands of different swings. I see guys who swing full boar the entire time, I see some who smooth it out all day. But it's about finding the speed where you're still in control of where the face of the golf club is.
I have a question for you guys... How many of you feel like/try to hit the ball as hard as you can (100% power) every shot? He is struggling mightily with his driver and I can tell he is just trying to destroy the ball. I tell him to just try and take a nice smooth swing (80%) but he isn't having any of it. He watches the pros and thinks he will also be able to drill it 350 yards
As for what I do with my own swing, driver I'm going to always swing 90-95%. I know I have a little more in the tank, but lay back a touch. But with almost every shot that I hit from 175 (6 Iron) and in, I'm typically going to club up and smooth it out about 75-80%, cause it allows me to control the flight and shot shape how I want to. Especially when I get to my wedges. I truly don't even know what my full shot distances would be with my wedges, because I'm never going to hit a full swing shot with any of them.St. Louis Cardinals | Milwaukee Bucks | Los Angeles Rams
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As our resident OS club fitter, any thoughts on whether some of the 'premium' club-fitting services (e.g. TrueSpec) are worthwhile? I think we've had this discussion in some form or other before, but my experiences with club-fitting (either myself or as an observer with family/friends) is that the standard club-fitting at your local golf store/superstore is extremely hit-or-miss, with more 'miss' than 'hit' in my experience.
I think I'd be willing to pay for a more 'premium' club fit experience if I had a sense that there would be some minimal level of expertise involved, which has not been my experience in general with club fittings.Comment
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