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  • Fresh Tendrils
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    • Jul 2002
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    #106
    Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

    Originally posted by DonkeyJote
    They did a terrible job of showing that Katniss was playing the love bird thing up for the cameras. It seemed all genuine to me.
    Really? I've read this impression from other people, but I never saw it as anything other than fake. Even at the end the movie it seems obvious that she ss ready to "get back to normal", but he grabs her hands and keeps the show going.



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    • DonkeyJote
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      #107
      Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

      Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
      Really? I've read this impression from other people, but I never saw it as anything other than fake. Even at the end the movie it seems obvious that she ss ready to "get back to normal", but he grabs her hands and keeps the show going.
      Besides her getting the note from Haymitch, when does it seem like it's anything other than genuine (and even then, it's super subtle). In the books it's super clear there's no real feelings, until the time when the doctors take him away to give him a new leg (and even that's brief). In the movie, she's caring for him seemingly because she cares, since they don't mention that she'd be shunned back home if she left him to die, and they even cut out the end when she tells him it was an act.

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      • Fresh Tendrils
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        #108
        Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

        The Haymitch talk made it really obvious to me. I was taking cues from her body language and facial expressions and it seemed clear that she was doing it to create an advantage (the "underdog" story).



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        • eDotd
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          • Jul 2006
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          #109
          Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

          Just saw this last night. I read the books a while ago so I'm fuzzy on the details. I think they did the capital justice as far as how extravagant and colorful it was. The Master of Ceremony was also spot on imo.

          Could've done with less shaky cam.

          I also agree with them not playing up Katniss' true feelings about Peeta when she's caring for him. In the book we can actually read the thoughts going through her head but I'm sure they could have found a way to make that a bit clearer.

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          • DonkeyJote
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            • Jul 2003
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            #110
            Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

            Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
            The Haymitch talk made it really obvious to me. I was taking cues from her body language and facial expressions and it seemed clear that she was doing it to create an advantage (the "underdog" story).
            I feel like the actress did as much as she could. It was a writing/directing decision. She tried to portray it, but there is only so much she could do. I'm not saying there weren't some signs, but it's so subtle that I doubt many people that haven't read the books picked up on that at all, and since it's such a major part of the story, and Katniss' character, I think that's a misstep. They should've at least included the scene at the end on the train, where it's revealed to Peeta that it was all an act, or one similar to it.

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            • Fresh Tendrils
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              #111
              Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

              I haven't read the books, though, haha.



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              • Buckeyes_Doc
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                • Jan 2009
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                #112
                Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

                Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                I feel like the actress did as much as she could. It was a writing/directing decision. She tried to portray it, but there is only so much she could do. I'm not saying there weren't some signs, but it's so subtle that I doubt many people that haven't read the books picked up on that at all, and since it's such a major part of the story, and Katniss' character, I think that's a misstep. They should've at least included the scene at the end on the train, where it's revealed to Peeta that it was all an act, or one similar to it.
                I agree with the last scene, when the movie ended I was surprised that they left that out. I was expecting her to refuse Peeta's hand when he grabbed it on the stage in District 12 after they exited the train.
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                • DonkeyJote
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                  • Jul 2003
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                  #113
                  Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

                  Originally posted by Buckeyes_Doc
                  I agree with the last scene, when the movie ended I was surprised that they left that out. I was expecting her to refuse Peeta's hand when he grabbed it on the stage in District 12 after they exited the train.
                  If they would have done something like that, it would've been enough to make it more clear that it was a ruse in the arena. Maybe they'll lead the second movie off with that or something. I'm thinking they wanted Katniss to be a more likable character.

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                  • Fresh Tendrils
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #114
                    Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

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                    • jeremym480
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                      • Oct 2008
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                      #115
                      My girlfrind and i watched with another couple (none of whom had read the books). Whether or not her feelings were real was on of the topics as we walked out of the theater. I thought it was pretty clear by the way she pulled away from him in the train. The girls didn't see it that way.

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                      • CMH
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                        • Oct 2002
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                        #116
                        Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

                        Originally posted by olliethebum85
                        Overall I liked the conversion from book to movie. There was some technical stuff I didn't like. It seemed like every fight they had the camera right in the tributes' faces and just shook it violently. I know they had to keep it PG-13, but this is a pretty gruesome story.
                        Ignoring the fight scenes, the camera shots overall were poor. Felt like watching a student film. Not something I really care about when I'm mostly dissatisfied with story elements, but still, the shots were very amateurish.

                        Originally posted by DubTrey1
                        I assume knowing the books etc may have helped, but the overall film made me feel like I am missing something from the premise of the entire film.
                        You felt you were missing something because important elements of the plot were completely ignored. We aren't talking about "oh, some things from the books can't make the film." We're talking about real, needed plot elements that would explain people's actions and behaviors.

                        One thing that was in my mind through several portions of the film was: "I'm sure glad I read the book" because without it I wouldn't have understood why something just happened.

                        The film almost took the approach that you read the books and didn't need important details shown. That's a terrible approach.


                        Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                        The Haymitch talk made it really obvious to me. I was taking cues from her body language and facial expressions and it seemed clear that she was doing it to create an advantage (the "underdog" story).
                        Even so, I think it's a problem when a film creates this much confusion. I watched those scenes knowing people were confused and I could see what caused some confusion.

                        I also see how there shouldn't be any confusion - just the scenes you mention - but that last look in the cave is very confusing. It's shot in a way to suggest she's not sure if she's faking it anymore.

                        And that might be on purpose, but I can't say more than that.
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                        • Fresh Tendrils
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #117
                          Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

                          Originally posted by CMH

                          Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                          The Haymitch talk made it really obvious to me. I was taking cues from her body language and facial expressions and it seemed clear that she was doing it to create an advantage (the "underdog" story).

                          Even so, I think it's a problem when a film creates this much confusion. I watched those scenes knowing people were confused and I could see what caused some confusion.

                          I also see how there shouldn't be any confusion - just the scenes you mention - but that last look in the cave is very confusing. It's shot in a way to suggest she's not sure if she's faking it anymore.

                          And that might be on purpose, but I can't say more than that.
                          Looking back on those scenes and knowing what ultimately happens with those two characters, I feel like the movie hedged its bets so to speak. I understand what the movie/story wanted to accomplish in this installment, but like you said it left the scenes open to interpretation. I didn't know what the story arc was for any of the characters, but watching the movie again I would probably feel along the lines as the rest of the people did who read the book. Its definitely not a clear allusion to the fact that she's doing it as part of the games, but there's enough there to debate her motivation I feel. Even so the movie left a lot of things on the fence and still there's not much to talk about after walking out. Its the same problem I had with The Avengers as a movie.



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                          • jeremym480
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                            • Oct 2008
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                            #118
                            Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

                            I wasn't sure if I should start a new thread or just use this one, but so far I am really digging the casting for Catching Fire

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                            • CMH
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                              #119
                              Gotta say I pictured Plutarch to look very similar. Nice casting choice for me.


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                              • Kashanova
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                                #120
                                Re: The Hunger Games (movie) - March 23rd

                                same director for the next one or a different one?

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