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Full Spreadsheet of Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings Available Now

12:49 PM - August 12, 2015 by Steve_OS

EA Sports has just released the full spreadsheet of Madden NFL 16 player ratings.

If you want to dive right in, download it here and let us know what you think!

Some specific ratings are listed below.

Highest Rated Players: Aaron Rodgers (99) Rob Gronkowski (99) J.J. Watt (99) Marshal Yanda (98) Von Miller (97) Justin Houston (97) Darrelle Revis (97) Josh Sitton (97) Tom Brady (97) Richard Sherman (97) Antonio Brown (97)

Highest Speed Rating: Breshad Perriman (97) Mario Alford (97) Phillip Dorsett (96) Dri Archer (96) J.J. Nelson (96) Corey Grant (96) Saalim Hakim (96) Reggie Dunn (96) Shane Wynn (96) Brandin Cooks (95) Tavon Austin (95) Trae Waynes (95) Marquise Goodwin (95) DeMarcus Van **** (95) Bryce Callahan (95) Onterio McCalebb (95)

Highest Acceleration Rating: Antwon Blake (97) Marquise Goodwin (96) Cedric Peerman (96) Marcus Sherels (96) Dri Archer (95) Saalim Hakim (95) Kenny Bell (95) Darryl Roberts (95) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (95) Colin Jones (95) P.J. Williams (95) DuJuan Harris (95) Ameer Abdullah (95) Julian Stanford (95)

Strongest Players: Ndamukong Suh (98) Stephen Paea (98) Jason Peters (98) Dontari Poe (97) Russell Bodine (97) J.J. Watt (97) Jared Veldheer (97) Mike Iupati (97) Dan Williams (96) Haloti Ngata (96) Brandon Williams (96) Phil Loadholt (96) Mackenzy Bernadeau (96) Vince Wilfork (96) Star Lotulelei (96) David Molk (96)

Highest Agility Rating: LeSean McCoy (99) Percy Harvin (98) Jamaal Charles (98) Tavon Austin (98) Odell Beckham Jr. (98) Andrew Hawkins (98) Adrian Peterson (97) Dez Bryant (97) Byron Jones (97) Patrick Peterson (97) Cordarrelle Patterson (97) Joe Haden (97) Randall Cobb (97) Desmond Trufant (97) Darren Sproles (97) Antonio Brown (97) DeSean Jackson (97) De'Anthony Thomas (97) John Brown (97)

Highest Catch Rating: Antonio Brown (99) Dez Bryant (98) Calvin Johnson (97) Odell Beckham Jr. (97) Jordy Nelson (96) Jason Witten (95) Julian Edelman (95) Demaryius Thomas (94) Randall Cobb (94) A.J. Green (94) Rob Gronkowski (94) Julio Jones (94) Larry Fitzgerald (93) Emmanuel Sanders (93) T.Y. Hilton (93) Jeremy Maclin (93) DeAndre Hopkins (93) Alshon Jeffery (93) Keenan Allen (93)

Highest Throw Power: Matthew Stafford (99) Jay Cutler (98) Cam Newton (97) Ryan Mallett (97) Joe Flacco (97) Derek Carr (96) Colin Kaepernick (95) Aaron Rodgers (95) Jameis Winston (95) Zach Mettenberger (95) Andrew Luck (95) Brock Osweiler (95) Tom Savage (94) Logan Thomas (94) Ben Roethlisberger (94) Tom Brady (94)

Highest Short Accuracy Rating: Tom Brady (96) Peyton Manning (95) Aaron Rodgers (94) Tony Romo (93) Drew Brees (93) Philip Rivers (91)

Highest Mid Accuracy Rating: Tom Brady (97) Aaron Rodgers (92) Tony Romo (92) Drew Brees (91) Peyton Manning (90) Philip Rivers (90) Ben Roethlisberger (90)

Highest Deep Accuracy Rating: Aaron Rodgers (80) Matt Ryan (80) Drew Brees (79) Tony Romo (78) Joe Flacco (76) Jameis Winston (76) Peyton Manning (75) Andrew Luck (75) Philip Rivers (74)

Highest Tackle Rating: Luke Kuechly (98) Damon Harrison (97) Sheldon Richardson (97) Bobby Wagner (97) NaVorro Bowman (97) Lavonte David (97) C.J. Mosley (96) Muhammad Wilkerson (96) DeAndre Levy (96)

Highest Truck Rating: Marshawn Lynch (98) Eddie Lacy (97) LeGarrette Blount (96) DeMarco Murray (96) Chris Ivory (96) Jeremy Hill (95) Alfred Morris (94) Adrian Peterson (94)

Highest Elusive Rating: Golden Taten (98) DeMarco Murray (97) DeSean Jackson (97) Jonathan Stewart (96) Antonio Brown (96) Le'Veon Bell (95) Percy Harvin (95) Jamaal Charles (95) Cordarrelle Patterson (95) Andrew Hawkins (95) T.Y. Hilton (95)

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# 81 StefJoeHalt @ 08/13/15 01:09 AM

I'm all for reduced speed..but I'm a touch concerned.."disclaimer I'm a die hard Eagles fan"...but who on earth is Lane Johnson almost as fast as Larry Fitzgerald ?...there are some suspect numbers...MeSean is likely top 5 fastest player in the league but some how he is running between 4.5-4.4? I'm getting these numbers from the slider scale they (EA) put together for an article no more then a few months ago...by their scale Larry Fitzgerald runs now in the 4.7 range? Larry isn't the fastest guy but that seems off...dan u have any numbers to either tell me I'm wrong or right?

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# 82 KickassJohnson @ 08/13/15 01:49 AM

The fact that they based player in-game speeds on their 40 times from some combine tells me all I need to know about this year's game..

# 83 Facts @ 08/13/15 02:14 AM

I don't understand the hype on Perriman. Guys like Goodwin and Dorsett burned coverage's while Perriman doesn't get the same separation on streaks. smh 40 times without pads are over valued in the football world.

# 84 Mizzou24 @ 08/13/15 02:29 AM

Looks like speeds will have to be scaled back up if the draft speeds are legit(from the few people posting about that)and from the looks of half and half speed rating scales in this...

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# 85 STB Bodam @ 08/13/15 02:30 AM

The ratings... How is Brandon Thompson a 69? That's a joke.

# 86 Sheba2011 @ 08/13/15 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorilla Glass


	I like JJ Watt and all but a 78 catch rating and again how is Desean Jackson not the fastest guy in the league.

JJ Watt was a tight end in high school and at a Central Michigan, 78 is probably low for him.

# 87 msdm27 @ 08/13/15 03:28 AM

I think the biggest issue is nobody knows how they re-rate SPD based on age. If they gave an explanation to how this was calculated, then I reckon much would be clarified.

I did a google search (very quick one! before some people bust in to correct/scold the finding) and found this projections for Brent Grimes

40 Low: 4.47 40 Time: 4.57 40 High: 4.68 (via nfldraftscout.com)

Now that's from his rookie year and going by the spreadsheet a 40-time of 4.57 would approximately result in a SPD around the 84-87 range... Russell Wilson, for example, has a SPD of 86 with a 40-time of 4.55 (from nfl.com)... I assume since Russ is still quite young, his SPD rating is still being solely based on 40 time without devaluation from age so......

Brent Grimes is now 32 years old... what calculation/formula made him drop to 81 SPD from his original (approx) SPD of 86?

For reference: Other players with 81 SPD in M16 and their actual 40 times.
Xzavier Dickson (rookie for NE)....... 4.74 (via nfl.com)
Frank Gore (veteran over 30).......... 40 Low: 4.48 40 Time: 4.58 40 High: 4.69
Antonio Allen (young safety for NYJ)..... 4.67 (via nfl.com)

Two things:
1) funny how two young players around the same age group with 0.7 difference in 40-times end up with the same SPD rating

2) It seems there is some sort of "logic" to the SPD devaluation from age since both Gore and Grimes are the same age and had approximately the same 40 time in their rookie seasons and both now have 81 sped.

# 88 ATLBrayden @ 08/13/15 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by msdm27


	I think the biggest issue is nobody knows how they re-rate SPD based on age. If they gave an explanation to how this was calculated, then I reckon much would be clarified. I did a google search (very quick one! before some people bust in to correct/scold the finding) and found this projections for Brent Grimes 40 Low: 4.47 40 Time: 4.57 40 High: 4.68 (via nfldraftscout.com) Now that's from his rookie year and going by the spreadsheet a 40-time of 4.57 would approximately result in a SPD around the 84-87 range... Russell Wilson, for example, has a SPD of 86 with a 40-time of 4.55 (from nfl.com)... I assume since Russ is still quite young, his SPD rating is still being solely based on 40 time without devaluation from age so...... Brent Grimes is now 32 years old... what calculation/formula made him drop to 81 SPD from his original (approx) SPD of 86? For reference: Other players with 81 SPD in M16 and their actual 40 times. Xzavier Dickson (rookie for NE)....... 4.74 (via nfl.com) Frank Gore (veteran over 30).......... 40 Low: 4.48 40 Time: 4.58 40 High: 4.69 Antonio Allen (young safety for NYJ)..... 4.67 (via nfl.com) Two things: 1) funny how two young players around the same age group with 0.7 difference in 40-times end up with the same SPD rating 2) It seems there is some sort of "logic" to the SPD devaluation from age since both Gore and Grimes are the same age and had approximately the same 40 time in their rookie seasons and both now have 81 sped.

I remember Dan from FBG Ratings explained that NFL players barely even lose speed if they even lose any throughout their entire careers, and that EA's speed regression is completely out of hand.

I find it impossible to believe that every single veteran in the entire league lost speed, and guys like AP and Jamaal Charles both lost 7 speed in a single year, EA just completely overlooked rookies when they toned down speeds.

# 89 msdm27 @ 08/13/15 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ATLBrayden


	I remember Dan from FBG Ratings explained that NFL players barely even lose speed if they even lose any throughout their entire careers, and that EA's speed regression is completely out of hand. I find it impossible to believe that every single veteran in the entire league lost speed, and guys like AP and Jamaal Charles both lost 7 speed in a single year, EA just completely overlooked rookies when they toned down speeds.

That's why I'm looking for an explanation/logic based on EA's method, which is the only thing we have to work with for M16.

As long as stuff is consistent then I'm ok with that... I mean, if rookies running 4.57 come in at 86 SPD and regress accordingly with vets, then that's cool.

But as we all worry about.... the issue might be the amount of rookies coming in at 95+ SPD :/

# 90 Equinox831 @ 08/13/15 05:31 AM

These rosters are going to need some work. Most things look pretty decent, but, just like everybody else said, the speed ratings are awful. Looks like the minimum speed threshold this year is going to have to be relatively high. I'd rather everybody be near the same playing field in terms of speed as opposed to linebackers catching receivers from behind every time they get free.

# 91 msdm27 @ 08/13/15 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shady Mike


	Still not understanding Desean Jackson's rating, no he's not an Eagle anymore, but he is LITERALLY the fastest player in the NFL...I have never in my whole life seen him caught from behind. 92 speed? Stop it, these ratings are asinine.

You know you're not supposed to use "literally", (let alone in ALL CAPS) when something is literally not correct, right?

Desean's 40-time (via nfl.com) is 4.35 which basically puts him way behind Perriman's 4.24, for example.

Back on topic though, and without getting into the whole "game speed" discussion... at least it seems EA is trying to find a consistent method to producing these ratings (albeit the yet unexplained age regression formula)

SIDE NOTE: Mario Alford's combine time from nfl.com is 4.43 but somehow he's the fastest player in the game.... SO MUCH FOR "CONSISTENT METHOD" hehe

But nah, DeSean Jackson is not the fastest player in the NFL.... The most explosive/dynamic, probably... Wish Madden had a proper way of representing this

# 92 Sheba2011 @ 08/13/15 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Shady Mike


	Still not understanding Desean Jackson's rating, no he's not an Eagle anymore, but he is LITERALLY the fastest player in the NFL...I have never in my whole life seen him caught from behind. 92 speed? Stop it, these ratings are asinine.

I wouldn't say he is the fastest in the NFL but a 92 does seem kind of low for him.

# 93 BreakingBad2013 @ 08/13/15 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by msdm27


	You know you're not supposed to use "literally", (let alone in ALL CAPS) when something is literally not correct, right? Desean's 40-time (via nfl.com) is 4.35 which basically puts him way behind Perriman's 4.24, for example. Back on topic though, and without getting into the whole "game speed" discussion... at least it seems EA is trying to find a consistent method to producing these ratings (albeit the yet unexplained age regression formula) SIDE NOTE: Mario Alford's combine time from nfl.com is 4.43 but somehow he's the fastest player in the game.... SO MUCH FOR "CONSISTENT METHOD" hehe But nah, DeSean Jackson is not the fastest player in the NFL.... The most explosive/dynamic, probably... Wish Madden had a proper way of representing this

DeSean isn't the fastest or most dynamic player in the NFL. He doesn't like physicality, and he can only run 3 routes with confidence. I get his speed is low, but TEs beat him in receiving, he was barely top 15 in 20+ yard catches.

Anyways, they screwed the pooch on these speed ratings lol. Going to be fun watching rookie LBs cover the top 5 WRs in the NFL.

# 94 DCEBB2001 @ 08/13/15 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Yukon46


	Exactly ! Tweeted on Aug 4th as pertaining to speed ratings in Madden 16 Donny Moore ‏@Donny_Moore Aug 4 all based off real world 40 time data now. With age-regression built in. DCEBB2001 Posted this about speed regression in another thread..... " I have done a lot of analysis on that, and guys who have been hurt will drop, but on the average, a player with a 15 year career will only drop about a tenth in the 40. I have data to support this. A guy like Donald Driver started out at a 4.45 in 1999 and was only at 4.56 in 2011. These guys don't drop off as much as some would like us to believe. " ....Now 4.45 to 4.56 does not sound like much, but in Madden's rating scale, that is about 6 speed points. So a player would go from a 89 to a 83 in this example.

First of all, 40 times should never equate to the SPD rating of a player. Madden uses the maximum velocity of a player to determine the SPD rating. ACC is the time it takes for a player to reach his maximum velocity.

That being said, IF they did use the 40 time to equate to SPD, and used the entirety of the scale from 99 to 1 with a linear regression, The threshold for a 90 would be a 4.37. A player who runs a 4.45 would have a SPD of 86. If he fell to a 4.56, his SPD would only drop 5 points to an 81 over the course of 10 seasons.

In the case of Driver which I exemplified earlier, his first drop in speed didn't occur until after his 9th season, and that drop was only 0.02 seconds on his 40. This would have dropped him one point after 9 completed seasons.

The point I am getting it, no matter the method EA uses, is that the drop off in SPD for players is less significant and takes more time to occur than what EA would have us believe.

# 95 DCEBB2001 @ 08/13/15 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by StefJoeHalt


	I'm all for reduced speed..but I'm a touch concerned.."disclaimer I'm a die hard Eagles fan"...but who on earth is Lane Johnson almost as fast as Larry Fitzgerald ?...there are some suspect numbers...MeSean is likely top 5 fastest player in the league but some how he is running between 4.5-4.4? I'm getting these numbers from the slider scale they (EA) put together for an article no more then a few months ago...by their scale Larry Fitzgerald runs now in the 4.7 range? Larry isn't the fastest guy but that seems off...dan u have any numbers to either tell me I'm wrong or right?

First of all, I have all ready debunked that entire article about how Madden players are rated. They didn't give us the correct formulas for calculating the OVRs, so I would take that entire thing with a huge grain of salt.

I have Jackson right now at the same 4.35 that he ran in 2008. He hasn't dropped off yet.

For Fitz, he posted a 4.48 in 2004 and has dropped to a 4.58. The first drop to 4.54 occurred in 2013. The drop to 4.58 occurred this year. If we used 40 times, which again, we shouldn't, his speed would have gone from an 85 to an 80 assuming EA uses the entire scale and uses all players that have posted a time since 1996. Big assumptions there, but that is what SHOULD happen if that is the case.

# 96 DCEBB2001 @ 08/13/15 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by msdm27


	I think the biggest issue is nobody knows how they re-rate SPD based on age. If they gave an explanation to how this was calculated, then I reckon much would be clarified. I did a google search (very quick one! before some people bust in to correct/scold the finding) and found this projections for Brent Grimes 40 Low: 4.47 40 Time: 4.57 40 High: 4.68 (via nfldraftscout.com) Now that's from his rookie year and going by the spreadsheet a 40-time of 4.57 would approximately result in a SPD around the 84-87 range... Russell Wilson, for example, has a SPD of 86 with a 40-time of 4.55 (from nfl.com)... I assume since Russ is still quite young, his SPD rating is still being solely based on 40 time without devaluation from age so...... Brent Grimes is now 32 years old... what calculation/formula made him drop to 81 SPD from his original (approx) SPD of 86? For reference: Other players with 81 SPD in M16 and their actual 40 times. Xzavier Dickson (rookie for NE)....... 4.74 (via nfl.com) Frank Gore (veteran over 30).......... 40 Low: 4.48 40 Time: 4.58 40 High: 4.69 Antonio Allen (young safety for NYJ)..... 4.67 (via nfl.com) Two things: 1) funny how two young players around the same age group with 0.7 difference in 40-times end up with the same SPD rating 2) It seems there is some sort of "logic" to the SPD devaluation from age since both Gore and Grimes are the same age and had approximately the same 40 time in their rookie seasons and both now have 81 sped.

Good post.

The big thing here is that most of the drops don't occur for these players until they get at least 8-9 seasons into the league. It isn't a constant regression. It's more like a change followed by a plateau, followed by another small change, followed by another plateau.

I mentioned Driver in other posts, so I made this graphic so people could see it. I made a rational regression with an R-Squared value of 0.90 and as you can see the trend line is pretty flat in the beginning. Driver doesn't hit 4.46 (a change of 0.01 seconds in his 40) until his 7th season. The changes increase from there, but it isn't like he ever goes from one season to the next with a huge drop.

x f(x)
1 4.45
2 4.45
3 4.45
4 4.45
5 4.45
6 4.45
7 4.46
8 4.47
9 4.48
10 4.49
11 4.51
12 4.52
13 4.53
14 4.55
15 4.57
16 4.58
17 4.60
18 4.62
19 4.64
20 4.66

I too think that EA is using some sort of regression model, but I don't think that they are using one that is correct. I think it could be done better and modeled after better data, but that's my take.

# 97 DCEBB2001 @ 08/13/15 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLBrayden


	I remember Dan from FBG Ratings explained that NFL players barely even lose speed if they even lose any throughout their entire careers, and that EA's speed regression is completely out of hand. I find it impossible to believe that every single veteran in the entire league lost speed, and guys like AP and Jamaal Charles both lost 7 speed in a single year, EA just completely overlooked rookies when they toned down speeds.

I have found that some players have gone their entire careers without losing anything. Now, one thing that factors into this, is that most players only are in the league for 3-4 seasons so they haven't even hit the time frame within which they regress. However, for players that have played a long time, they too don't regress very much in 40 time over the course of a career, at least not to the point where a player is losing 20 SPD points in one offseason (when they hit 30).

# 98 DCEBB2001 @ 08/13/15 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msdm27


	SIDE NOTE: Mario Alford's combine time from nfl.com is 4.43 but somehow he's the fastest player in the game.... SO MUCH FOR "CONSISTENT METHOD" hehe

Alford posted 4.33 at the combine (HH) and 4.27 at his pro day. They are likely referencing his pro day time.

# 99 child_pleaze @ 08/13/15 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakingBad2013


	DeSean isn't the fastest or most dynamic player in the NFL. He doesn't like physicality, and he can only run 3 routes with confidence. I get his speed is low, but TEs beat him in receiving, he was barely top 15 in 20+ yard catches. Anyways, they screwed the pooch on these speed ratings lol. Going to be fun watching rookie LBs cover the top 5 WRs in the NFL.

He was #1 in catches of 40 or more though and it's not even close

# 100 Yukon46 @ 08/13/15 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	First of all, 40 times should never equate to the SPD rating of a player.

You say this alot... but Madden DOES use it, so what is your point ?

In the game, you will see when a Rookie is listed at running (x) time in the 40 he will be rated (y) for speed.

I am not trying to argue a point of what "It should be ".....

I am stating what it IS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	That being said, IF they did use the 40 time to equate to SPD, and used the entirety of the scale from 99 to 1 with a linear regression, The threshold for a 90 would be a 4.37. A player who runs a 4.45 would have a SPD of 86. If he fell to a 4.56, his SPD would only drop 5 points to an 81 over the course of 10 seasons. In the case of Driver which I exemplified earlier, his first drop in speed didn't occur until after his 9th season, and that drop was only 0.02 seconds on his 40. This would have dropped him one point after 9 completed seasons. The point I am getting it, no matter the method EA uses, is that the drop off in SPD for players is less significant and takes more time to occur than what EA would have us believe.

I am pretty sure whatever in depth info you have, that was not used by a EA Dev for these ratings.

My best guess is he used a system, based on what the game will do in future seasons, to regress Speed on the initial roster due to years in the league.

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