Shohei Otani in The Show

[kehlis]

Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

I don't think there has to be a choice. Kopech is not going to pitch and is in the roster as a pitcher. Now, what is to prevent someone from moving Kopech from minors to majors? Nothing that I know of, unless there is some code preventing it from happening. Is there such a code? No. Thus, I don't see why they can't have Ohtani in the majors as both pitcher and hitter, even though we all know he won't pitch this year, or probably won't pitch.

Leaving Kopech in and not the reigning ROTY is not a choice that makes sense to me. Now, I know the idea of him batting is half the man and is reality, but Kopech and others who are not going to play this year while still in the game is also reality--and they can be moved up to the majors. Thus, you can have those who are not going to play in the majors anyway!

I won't get into all the fake players who may also get into the majors. At least Ohtani is real.

You're focusing too much on Kopech, he's irrelevant to this conversation.

As I mentioned, the question isn't about whether Ohtani should be in the game or not. He will be in the game.

And AGAIN, we all wish SCEA would make him both a hitter and a pitcher. They chose not to last year so until we hear otherwise, we are working on the assumption that will be the same this year.

Without even a hint of a guarantee that he's going to pitch this year, the logic says to make him a hitter instead of a pitcher.

[Cavicchi]

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You're focusing too much on Kopech, he's irrelevant to this conversation.

As I mentioned, the question isn't about whether Ohtani should be in the game or not. He will be in the game.

And AGAIN, we all wish SCEA would make him both a hitter and a pitcher. They chose not to last year so until we hear otherwise, we are working on the assumption that will be the same this year.

Without even a hint of a guarantee that he's going to pitch this year, the logic says to make him a hitter instead of a pitcher.

In my opinion, Kopech has a lot to do with it. I could be facing Kopech in the majors while Ohtani is not there as a pitcher.

If they want Ohtani just as a hitter, than all players who are not going to play in 2019 should not be in the game, just like Ohtani the pitcher.

Like I said earlier, your take will no doubt differ than mine. So be it.

[kehlis]

Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

In my opinion, Kopech has a lot to do with it. I could be facing Kopech in the majors while Ohtani is not there as a pitcher.

That's true, but it's because of MLBPA rules that you could be facing Kopech. It's because of the fact that SCEA doesn't make him two way that you may not be facing him.

I don't know how many other ways I can explain this. WE ALL WISH HE WERE A TWO WAY PLAYER WHICH WOULD MAKE THIS A MOOT CONVERSATION.

Until they do that, we are left with one or the other.

If they want Ohtani just as a hitter, than all players who are not going to play in 2019 should not be in the game, just like Ohtani the pitcher.

I don't even know what this means. Any player that is a part of the MLBPA will be in the game.

Both of these players are still part of the MLBPA.

Ohtani is unique and I feel I don't need to explain why.

They do not create two separate versions of him.

They have to pick one or the other.

[Cavicchi]

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That's true, but it's because of MLBPA rules that you could be facing Kopech. It's because of the fact that SCEA doesn't make him two way that you may not be facing him.

I don't know how many other ways I can explain this. WE ALL WISH HE WERE A TWO WAY PLAYER WHICH WOULD MAKE THIS A MOOT CONVERSATION.

Until they do that, we are left with one or the other.



I don't even know what this means. Any player that is a part of the MLBPA will be in the game.

Both of these players are still part of the MLBPA.

Ohtani is unique and I feel I don't need to explain why.

They do not create two separate versions of him.

They have to pick one or the other.

Why can't they make him a two-way player?

I should state here my intention is to play as the Red Sox, so no sweat off my back if Ohtani is not in the game as pitcher or hitter. I'm just saying all players injured and expected to play and in the roster should include Ohtani as pitcher.

If I were playing as the Angels and someone or CPU puts Kopech in as starter in a major league game for 2019, I would be quite upset. Like, where is my Ohtani?!

[kehlis]

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Why can't they make him a two-way player?

I could be wrong but I don't think we know why they can't (or won't).

What we DO know is that last year when he did both, it didn't happen in the game so until we hear otherwise, I don't think there is a good reason to assume that will change this year (regardless of his pitching status).

If I were playing as the Angels and someone or CPU puts Kopech in as starter in a major league game for 2019, I would be quite upset. Like, where is my Ohtani?!

It's not my area of expertise so someone else would have to help but I'm pretty sure there are ways to avoid Kopech being called up.

[ShowTyme15]

Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

I could be wrong but I don't think we know why they can't (or won't).

What we DO know is that last year when he did both, it didn't happen in the game so until we hear otherwise, I don't think there is a good reason to assume that will change this year (regardless of his pitching status).



It's not my area of expertise so someone else would have to help but I'm pretty sure there are ways to avoid Kopech being called up.

Just use 30 team control. Go to the CPU profile settings and set injuries to manual. Go to the White Sox and manually injure Kopech and place him on the 60 day DL. You can assign him Elbow Surgery and that will give you an option for how many days he'll be out.

Once you've done whatever makes you happy just go back to the CPU profile setting and change injuries from manual to on.

This is the only work around unless they ever allow pre existing injuries when starting a franchise like Madden and 2K.

[Cavicchi]

Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

Just use 30 team control. Go to the CPU profile settings and set injuries to manual. Go to the White Sox and manually injure Kopech and place him on the 60 day DL. You can assign him Elbow Surgery and that will give you an option for how many days he'll be out.

Once you've done whatever makes you happy just go back to the CPU profile setting and change injuries from manual to on.

This is the only work around unless they ever allow pre existing injuries when starting a franchise like Madden and 2K.

Can you do that with CPU Roster Control On?

[Cavicchi]

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Oh, just thought of another scenario:

Okay, MLB 19 and franchise mode playing season 2020 online. I imagine Kopech will be there and Ohtani will not. Well, unless we can import Ohtani the pitcher into the game. So why couldn't someone start Kopech in 2020 online?

I assume Ohtani will pitch in 2020, and Kopech as well.

[ShowTyme15]

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Can you do that with CPU Roster Control On?

Unfortunately, injuries are automatically turned off with CPU ROSTER CONTROL turned on. That's something I've been asking to change for a few years now.

[Cavicchi]

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Unfortunately, injuries are automatically turned off with CPU ROSTER CONTROL turned on. That's something I've been asking to change for a few years now.

Okay, I wasn't asking for myself, just so that others would know.

You see, I have a rather simple solution that results in fairness to all:

If Ohtani the pitcher is not in the roster as expected, then I will take out every player who is also on DL and not expected to play. How I do that is simply replace with fake players. In that way, all DL players not expected to play in 2019 will not be in the game. Now that's what I'll do in my roster used for franchise.

[TripleCrown9]

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So in order to achieve realism, you're going to insert a bunch of fake players just so the DL guys aren't there?

[Cavicchi]

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So in order to achieve realism, you're going to insert a bunch of fake players just so the DL guys aren't there?

The default roster has lots of fake players, or didn't you know?

[Caulfield]

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Okay, let's try it this way:

The default roster has lots of fake players, or didn't you know?

So in order to achieve realism, you're going to insert more fake players just so the DL guys aren't there?

[Cavicchi]

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Oh, I should elaborate further:

The fake players I use to replace will be 44 years old and Overall in 40's. The CPU will never call these players up.

Now, Ohtani the pitcher as expected not in roster will also not be in any franchise whether 2019, 2020, 2021, etc. Thus, I see no reason to include other players on DL not expected to play in 2019. I consider this fair to all on DL and not expected to play in 2019--and Ohtani the pitcher not in roster.

[Cavicchi]

Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

Okay, let's try it this way:


So in order to achieve realism, you're going to insert more fake players just so the DL guys aren't there?

What realism is there in those fake players in default roster???