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  • brettryantalley
    Pro
    • Mar 2004
    • 730

    #586
    Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

    i'm getting too much offensive production (singles mainly) with these as a base set. i've gone back and forth between all star and hof. my timing window is about default and hit quality is at 0 and power is about +5 (but i dont get too many hr's)...any idea on how i can do something else...maybe to make the comp pitching harder?

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    • RogueHominid
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2006
      • 10900

      #587
      Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

      What was getting me errors-wise was balls going right through IF's legs in a way that didn't look natural. My experience might have been an anomaly. Other than that, I really like the set. I agree with the poster above about the CPU arm strength slider. At +5 I've been gunned out by strong-armed RFs a couple of times, and man does that add drama to the game. You really feel the risk-reward factor of trying to take the extra base when you know they're going to actually be gunning for you.

      Great work on the whole.

      Incidentally, do you have any input, Nem, on the discussion going on currently about drawing more walks in the main forum? There's an interesting counter-theory going on there about the relationship between aggressiveness and control that might be worth looking into.

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      • nemesis04
        RIP Ty My Buddy
        • Feb 2004
        • 13530

        #588
        Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

        Originally posted by brettryantalley
        i'm getting too much offensive production (singles mainly) with these as a base set. i've gone back and forth between all star and hof. my timing window is about default and hit quality is at 0 and power is about +5 (but i dont get too many hr's)...any idea on how i can do something else...maybe to make the comp pitching harder?
        Your hit quality is too low, timing window should be below default and your power is too high. Where do you have vision set at? Also, are you using the left stick to aim the bat through the zone?
        “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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        • nemesis04
          RIP Ty My Buddy
          • Feb 2004
          • 13530

          #589
          Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

          Originally posted by Trojan Man
          What was getting me errors-wise was balls going right through IF's legs in a way that didn't look natural. My experience might have been an anomaly. Other than that, I really like the set. I agree with the poster above about the CPU arm strength slider. At +5 I've been gunned out by strong-armed RFs a couple of times, and man does that add drama to the game. You really feel the risk-reward factor of trying to take the extra base when you know they're going to actually be gunning for you.

          Great work on the whole.

          Incidentally, do you have any input, Nem, on the discussion going on currently about drawing more walks in the main forum? There's an interesting counter-theory going on there about the relationship between aggressiveness and control that might be worth looking into.
          Thanks Trojan Man!

          Do you have a link to this thread you are talking about?
          “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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          • kiddlex
            Pro
            • Apr 2003
            • 628

            #590
            Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

            Nem what do you think about raising the global pitch speed slider to decrease hits?

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            • nemesis04
              RIP Ty My Buddy
              • Feb 2004
              • 13530

              #591
              Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

              Originally posted by kiddlex
              Nem what do you think about raising the global pitch speed slider to decrease hits?
              I do not really see it as a viable option to lowering hits. Maybe at first you would strike out more but the speed is just a timing aspect that eventually you would get used to.

              You have to take components away from the hitter to make hitting more difficult. Vision, the timing window, HQ and power are going to affect this the most.
              “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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              • tree3five
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 4006

                #592
                Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                Originally posted by nemesis04
                I do not really see it as a viable option to lowering hits. Maybe at first you would strike out more but the speed is just a timing aspect that eventually you would get used to.

                You have to take components away from the hitter to make hitting more difficult. Vision, the timing window, HQ and power are going to affect this the most.
                what one slider would you say effects hits the most? or which is the most important?

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                • RogueHominid
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10900

                  #593
                  Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                  Originally posted by nemesis04
                  Thanks Trojan Man!

                  Do you have a link to this thread you are talking about?
                  Sure, man. Here's the link: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ls-please.html. Let me know what you think. Your set is the best overall, no doubt, but since you work on these slider issues so much, I'd be curious to hear your response to this discussion.

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                  • nemesis04
                    RIP Ty My Buddy
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 13530

                    #594
                    Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                    Originally posted by tree3five
                    what one slider would you say effects hits the most? or which is the most important?
                    Vision (Also, the HQ slider has to be in close proximity to vision.) Basically, I determine where I want vision to be first and drop HQ two notches below it. Then I would go to the timing window and would not have it any higher than -5.
                    “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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                    • nemesis04
                      RIP Ty My Buddy
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 13530

                      #595
                      Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                      Originally posted by Trojan Man
                      Sure, man. Here's the link: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ls-please.html. Let me know what you think. Your set is the best overall, no doubt, but since you work on these slider issues so much, I'd be curious to hear your response to this discussion.
                      Thanks, I will check it out!
                      “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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                      • tree3five
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 4006

                        #596
                        Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                        Originally posted by nemesis04
                        Vision (Also, the HQ slider has to be in close proximity to vision.) Basically, I determine where I want vision to be first and drop HQ two notches below it. Then I would go to the timing window and would not have it any higher than -5.
                        ok, thanks a lot nemesis.

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                        • brettryantalley
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 730

                          #597
                          Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                          Originally posted by nemesis04
                          Your hit quality is too low, timing window should be below default and your power is too high. Where do you have vision set at? Also, are you using the left stick to aim the bat through the zone?
                          you can have hit quality too low? i just figured the lower it was, the harder it would be to get hits.

                          with power, i'm still not seeing too many home runs...just about right actually. should i still lower it?

                          i'm guessing my plate vision is set at whatever your set's default is...dont think i've changed that one.

                          also, with the timing window...what exactly does it do. all i know is with it all the way down, i never pulled anything and that got annoying.

                          i do use the left stick.

                          2 things i'm going to try is raising pitch speed and lowering the plate vision slider. what is your advice as far as hit quality and power? thanks.
                          Last edited by brettryantalley; 04-30-2008, 10:03 PM.

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                          • ty5oke
                            87%
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 2912

                            #598
                            Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                            Originally posted by nemesis04
                            Thanks, I will check it out!
                            Nem,

                            Quick question for ya, Are the sliders set for a user who uses the Power swing?
                            I don't ever touch the power swing and feel like my hard hit balls are at most warning track power. Should I just bump up my Power 1 or 2 clicks, if I'm lacking the Hr's?
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                            • nemesis04
                              RIP Ty My Buddy
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 13530

                              #599
                              Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                              Originally posted by ty5oke
                              Nem,

                              Quick question for ya, Are the sliders set for a user who uses the Power swing?
                              I don't ever touch the power swing and feel like my hard hit balls are at most warning track power. Should I just bump up my Power 1 or 2 clicks, if I'm lacking the Hr's?
                              I never use the power swing. Just bump up the power to default if you are having trouble with hr's.
                              “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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                              • nemesis04
                                RIP Ty My Buddy
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 13530

                                #600
                                Re: HOF Sliders (Project Nemesis MLB 08)

                                Originally posted by brettryantalley
                                you can have hit quality too low? i just figured the lower it was, the harder it would be to get hits.

                                with power, i'm still not seeing too many home runs...just about right actually. should i still lower it?

                                i'm guessing my plate vision is set at whatever your set's default is...dont think i've changed that one.

                                also, with the timing window...what exactly does it do. all i know is with it all the way down, i never pulled anything and that got annoying.

                                i do use the left stick.

                                2 things i'm going to try is raising pitch speed and lowering the plate vision slider. what is your advice as far as hit quality and power? thanks.
                                The low hit quality is one of the reasons you are seeing so many singles. Power at +5 seems too high to me. I would think there would be a lot of home runs.

                                Vision needs to follow HQ. If you want to stay at -10, then your vision needs to be at -8.

                                The timing window adjusts the amount of time from point A to point B where contact can be made with the bat. Think of it as an accordion where it stretches and contracts. Obviously, certain timing window settings affect how hit balls track in the field. The slider effect is very subtle.
                                “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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