Torre in Tampa

[ryanm1058123]

Re: Torre in Tampa

I don't see why you believe it is such a great day. Torre has proven to be a good manager and has gotten them to the postseason 12 years in a row. So why is there need for a change?

If you really think hiring a new manager will win this team a World Series then so be it. I don't think a new manager will make any difference, since the same players will be out there on the field. Then again, I feel that baseball managers are overrated and I feel that have little impact on how the team performs.

Team will be good enough to win a World Series next year or the year following that. We need to usher in the new era with a new manager to work with the young kids.

[Double Eights]

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Yes, I am sure I could learn a lot from you. Much like football.

No need to troll and bait. It's not needed.

Agreed. Pretty lame there, bkrich.

I wish Joe Torre the best. I would have loved to see him come back, but I understand why he didn't. Yankees won't the be same without him.

[NYJets]

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Who did he overwork? Anibal Sanchez was a notorius injury risk even when he was with the Red Sox.

Josh Johnson threw 109 pitches or more 8 times in 24 starts. And his injury problems started shortly after he was brought back into a game after a long rain delay. Got hurt this year.

Willis threw a ton of innings, and tons of high pitch counts, and had a terrible year this year.

Sanchez had an injury history, but was still thrown out there pitching a ton in September.

Doesn't prove anything, but neither does any relievers who got hurt or were ineffective after being used a lot by Torre.

[NYJets]

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Isn't he still in Japan? I thought he was real happy there? Can anyone imagine Bobby Valentine getting along with the Yankees FO?

Yea, he said he's not interested.

I like him as a baseball guy. Don't like his ability to get along with the players, FO, and media.

[ryanm1058123]

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Willis was changed mechanically. It has nothing to do with being overworked. He was just a mess mechanically. You could tell with every game he pitched.

Josh Johnson also had an injury history even before he hit Joe Girardi's hands.

[NYJets]

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Case & point. Game 2 this years ALDS. Torre has historically gone to Mo for 2 inning saves almost 90% of time in the playoffs. So what does he do he sends Joba out there. Why? You see your players can't touch Carmona & it looks like 1 run is gonna be all your gonna get. Cleveland has the top of the order coming to the plate.

Also when Joba was having troubles with the BUGS, he doesn't even have Mo warming up, just in case something gos wrong. Even if your not gonna bring Mo in 2 least Cleveland see's him warming-up which could lead to them swing @ bad pitches because they know if Mo comes-in & the game is basically over. Then what kills me is Mo goes out & pitches 2 innings anyway. So why not the 8th & 9th...

This is just 1 example of Torre's bad managing

It's hard to bash pitching a guy who had a .38 era. Especially after he dominated in the 7th.

Just my opinion. I would have been fine with him doing whichever, but I think he would have been bashed either way if it didn't work.

[Sandman42]

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Out of the guys for the job I'd most like Girardi on the team. Even if he did seem to overwork the pitches a bit, who knows if he will continue with that. It was his first year managing and the Marlins had a couple of good starters and an awful bullpen. I'd be fine with Mattingly on the team also. The only guy I don't want is LaRussa.

[NYJets]

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Willis was changed mechanically. It has nothing to do with being overworked. He was just a mess mechanically. You could tell with every game he pitched.

Josh Johnson also had an injury history even before he hit Joe Girardi's hands.

So if these guys had injury histories, why isn't Girardi even trying to be careful with them? Injuries are risks for all young pitchers. You have to do what you can to minimize the risk, not throw them out there like they are a 10 year veteran.

[bkrich83]

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Agreed. Pretty lame there, bkrich.

You're kidding right. A guy talking down, yet he doesn't have time to actually go in to detail. Please. Go stalk someone else.

[bkrich83]

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So if these guys had injury histories, why isn't Girardi even trying to be careful with them? Injuries are risks for all young pitchers. You have to do what you can to minimize the risk, not throw them out there like they are a 10 year veteran.

Did AJ Burnett get hurt under him also?

[ryanm1058123]

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AJ Burnett was with the Blue Jays last year

[bkrich83]

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No need to troll and bait. It's not needed.

Ok, kettle.

[Sandman42]

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Did AJ Burnett get hurt under him also?

Burnett signed with Toronto the year before Girardi came.

[NYJets]

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I am not saying that I would not want Girardi, he's my first choice now since Torre isn't going to happen, I'm just saying I have some concerns. I have more/bigger concerns with Mattingly and LaRussa though.

[bkrich83]

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Burnett signed with Toronto the year before Girardi came.

That's right..