Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

True. It feels like I have to fight an entire round of mortal kombat doing a 12 hit combo plus fatality prior to the first possession.


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[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Brilliant article Chase.


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[vannwolfhawk]

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Hoping those playbooks drop today.

Just dropped them… :-)

[AIRJ23]

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I believe there was a tuning update yesterday and I feel things are a little better now. I'm seeing some help.

I played last night and I dropped like 12 immediately with Luka (who they made insanely OP in this game) and they started doubling me. Fingers crossed it’s not a fluke.

[49UNCFan]

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I played last night and I dropped like 12 immediately with Luka (who they made insanely OP in this game) and they started doubling me. Fingers crossed it’s not a fluke.

Lakers doubled Curry earlier against me

[AIRJ23]

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Lakers doubled Curry earlier against me

Any gameplay fixes will apply to existing franchise modes, yes? I assume so (as the updates which removed help D did) but haven’t had a chance to fire up my league since the tweaks yet.

[rudyjuly2]

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True. It feels like I have to fight an entire round of mortal kombat doing a 12 hit combo plus fatality prior to the first possession.


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And it’s worse with them removing the play calling face buttons (or subs). I still have no idea why they did that.

[The 24th Letter]

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That doubling has literally been happening for weeks now, lol

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[Smirkin Dirk]

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Yeah doubling has never went away.


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[el jimmy]

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Yeah I posted an example of Luka being doubled in the post and then again on the perimeter about a month ago.

Bam got doubled in the 4th last night as the cpu continuously left him open as the role man in the pnr so no fixed there.

I think on average the help in the pnr works maybe 12% of the time.

Other then that I can routinely blow by defenders in iso now too (for the record, I was able to at launch but the help would force me into a situation of pass? Mid range? Floater?)

Now it's just a routine straight line drive to the basket.

I'm yawning my way to victory on HOF. This isn't the way.

[amioran]

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My bad. I realized it’s called CONTACT SHOT SUCCESS. Isn’t that the same as contested shot success? Or does that just mean fouled shots go in.

That's a slider that governs only layups or inside shots (i.e. how many contested layups/inside shots go in, so it also increases and-one shots making), it does nothing for actual jump shots (even if in the paint). We would need a slider like that but for jump shots yet sadly we don't have one right now, as we dont' have a slider for stepbacks/hopshots success (stepbacks for example really lower the % making of a shot especially from the three line because they are considered off-balance shots from 2K, and yet it is one of the most used shots nowadays, especially by good shooters - hopshots instead don't decrease making % of a shot and that's why you see hopshots used over and over in Park/Rec, it really makes no sense), or a slider for how much stamina lower shot making, or a slider for moving shots percentage, or a slider for Post shots etc. etc.

We lack a lot of sliders to really tailor the experience to simulation basketball instead of a gameplay meant for Park/Rec.

[Smirkin Dirk]

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That's a slider that governs only layups or inside shots (i.e. how many contested layups/inside shots go in, so it also increases and-one shots making), it does nothing for actual jump shots (even if in the paint). We would need a slider like that but for jump shots yet sadly we don't have one right now, as we dont' have a slider for stepbacks/hopshots success (stepbacks for example really lower the % making of a shot especially from the three line because they are considered off-balance shots from 2K, and yet it is one of the most used shots nowadays, especially by good shooters - hopshots instead don't decrease making % of a shot and that's why you see hopshots used over and over in Park/Rec, it really makes no sense), or a slider for how much stamina lower shot making, or a slider for moving shots percentage, or a slider for Post shots etc. etc.

We lack a lot of sliders to really tailor the experience to simulation basketball instead of a gameplay meant for Park/Rec.

True. Step backs are too difficult.


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[rudyjuly2]

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I make quite a few step backs with Cade. He does have the “difficult shot” badge. Not sure if there are other badges or attributes that help. I think certain players like Harden and Luka should have something to make it easier for them.

[el jimmy]

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I make quite a few step backs with Cade. He does have the “difficult shot” badge. Not sure if there are other badges or attributes that help. I think certain players like Harden and Luka should have something to make it easier for them.

I actually think Luka's is quite easy to hit. I've also noticed if you do a step back from a stationary position (after a few left and right crosses) it's much easier then the stepback with momentum.

[amioran]

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I make quite a few step backs with Cade. He does have the “difficult shot” badge. Not sure if there are other badges or attributes that help. I think certain players like Harden and Luka should have something to make it easier for them.

In the mid-range with Difficult Shot yes, they are quite doable but from three point range even with Circus Threes in HOF the timing window becomes much much smaller than with a set shot. To make them you have to tie the stepbacks with other badges (as Rhythm Shooter for example, especially if you stun the defender with Tight Handles while sizing up) or takeover to increase their feasibility.

Stepbacks as they are now are considered by 2K a "bad" shot from the three point line and the motive is yet again to balance the Park/Rec aspect of the gameplay, where stepbacks would become too easy of a way to score given the insanely high making % from three when you are open. Just look at how over used the hop-steps are in Park (but also generally on online play, there's even a thread here discussing the matter) since they not only give you separation and momentum but they don't lower the making percent of the shot as stepbacks do.