Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[leoribas3]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Seems every few days the status of team defense is taking a 1 step forward, then 2 steps back kind of approach.
In the last couple of days I have been able to use the Help D button (L1) as a bandaid of sorts. Although when icon selecting who you want to help, it commits them blindly to the ball almost like a double team, in PnR situations I was having success using it to essentially manually create a tag the roller with 1 rotation (never 2, which obvs still leaves a wide open 3).
Today however, all the Help D button is doing even in PnR is having the player just run blindly to the ball, sometimes running past the open roller to the already doubled ball handler.

For the life of me I'll never understand why the answer is not improve rotations and Xing out rather than go backwards to make the focus 1 on 1, -if you beat him, you win- approach.
If MyTeam style players want to off ball and take a video game approach, cool. Let the defensive settings allow them to turn Help Off. Thats it. Czar even posted a video showing that that worked. Why isn't that the continued approach?

This game is literal trash right now on the defensive side of the ball from an NBA perspective. Period, there's no sugar coating it. This is not basketball. It's a wonderful MyTeam experience, sprint around a PnR for a dunk, thats great, let them have their settings for that. I wouldn't even be mad if theirs was the default experience and we had to use 100's of sliders to create the experience that we're looking for. But we don't even have that option as so many of the relevant sliders that would seemingly relate to these issues do nothing.
We are stuck with a $70-$100 screen saver or drink coaster.

This is truly unacceptable.

I don't want to hear excuses anymore. The game was acceptable before, the gameplay blog had relevance before, the game was not perfect, but it was closer to an NBA game than it is now. Simply because cutter help was too sensitive to video game tactics. THEN SLOW DOWN PASSING SPEED, SPEED UP DEFENSIVE ROTATIONS OR SIMPLY ALLOW HELP TO BE ON OR OFF. Universally turning off help, or buffing 7 footers on ball is not the answer, and will never be the answer, even for the casual gamer! I know nothing is that simple, but take that direction at least in your attempts to correct the issue over the following weeks.

It's not like taking the big manually and standing out of position was even some new comp tactic as if, omg cheesers found something new we never thought of! There really wasnt anyone at 2k in July who said, hm what happens if I off ball and sag off but stand in the passing lane? Cmon

I apologize for being dramatic on a forum. But I'm really done man, I spend my money every year too. That blog gave me hope, and this result is insulting.

Aye bro take a sip of this water, youre spitting too many facts, throat must be dry

[strosdood]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Has there ever been a game that at release had people saying it’s unrealistically hard to saying it’s unrealistically easy a month later? [emoji23] day to day people are saying it’s different which is comical lol


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[Johnnythelegend]

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I didn't buy the game for the first time but when I saw how much it was praised I was really really close to buying it but decided to wait. And apparently that was a great decision. Will do the same next year but I'm losing hope. Sim guys, or just guys who want to play normal, solid basketball close to what we see IRL are simply second class citizens. But what I don't understand is that they obviously can create a really solid game on both ends of the floor but won't make it possible to adjust the game that is defense to different styles. It's really like showing us the middle finger. I am not sure if I can use "us" since I didn't buy the game but by us I am sim community.

[CujoMatty]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Has there ever been a game that at release had people saying it’s unrealistically hard to saying it’s unrealistically easy a month later? [emoji23] day to day people are saying it’s different which is comical lol


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I dunno, I can only go by my experience which means either I slept really good 1 night and woke up the best NBA 2k player that ever lived or they done effed up the game with a patch. I'd loooooove to believe it's the former but I played an online game last night and got destroyed by an 11 year old girl from Idaho so i'm pretty sure it's the latter.

[Mikelopedia]

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Lol the thing that particularly drives me nuts is in COMP PRO AM (!!!) help D exits to a certain extent. If good pro am teams are tagging and scrambling more than NBA 5 v 5 game modes there's a serious problem.
Nah lets just make every on ball defender a wall of bricks instead again. That'll do.

Basketball has never been (and continues to be less so) about 1 on 1 defense. Yet 2k keeps making it about that.

[strosdood]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I dunno, I can only go by my experience which means either I slept really good 1 night and woke up the best NBA 2k player that ever lived or they done effed up the game with a patch. I'd loooooove to believe it's the former but I played an online game last night and got destroyed by an 11 year old girl from Idaho so i'm pretty sure it's the latter.

Oh I refuse to play online lol…… that’s nothing but video game exploitation at every turn……..lol


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[Mikelopedia]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Just want to be clear about something though.

This applies to the dev team as a whole too, but especially with what i know about the MyNBA team, and the respect admiration I have for Czar, I know the dev team isn't content with an aspect of the game that doesn't resemble basketball or in our eyes, makes the game worse. Hell, you can hear it in Czar's voice lol. I know that most of the time, these decisions that negatively affect our experience as hardcore NBA fans comes from their bosses who do not share the same passion for basketball. It's to those, the ones who make my money feel as though it has less worth, that I direct my words of "trash" at. Bleep them.

And before the argument of VC comes up, let me say 2 things, 1) all VC does is expedite the experience for MyPlayer and MyTeam modes. They aren't paying extra for their game mode. It's the same $70 game with or without VC. The thing is, 2) we don't have those options. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm sure I speak for those of us who are blessed enough to have some spare disposable income at any given time that hell, if 2k slapped a 20,000 VC tag on completely updated and authentic playbooks and defensive schemes, 10,000 VC on all cyberfaces for added players, 30,000 VC for an expanded Edit Player and Create a Player suite 10,000VC for 2 way contracts and more authentic CBA rules in MyNBA online or 50,000 VC for a fully integrated GLeague with all real players, bet your *** I'd pay. I'm dead serious and although many would be just as upset as when they first introduced VC to ANYONE, the fiends like us would fiend away lol.
And if we couldn't afford it, we'd grind away and be contributing like madmen to the VC glitches every September lol.

[jk31]

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Just want to be clear about something though.

This applies to the dev team as a whole too, but especially with what i know about the MyNBA team, and the respect admiration I have for Czar, I know the dev team isn't content with an aspect of the game that doesn't resemble basketball or in our eyes, makes the game worse. Hell, you can hear it in Czar's voice lol. I know that most of the time, these decisions that negatively affect our experience as hardcore NBA fans comes from their bosses who do not share the same passion for basketball. It's to those, the ones who make my money feel as though it has less worth, that I direct my words of "trash" at. Bleep them.

And before the argument of VC comes up, let me say 2 things, 1) all VC does is expedite the experience for MyPlayer and MyTeam modes. They aren't paying extra for their game mode. It's the same $70 game with or without VC. The thing is, 2) we don't have those options. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm sure I speak for those of us who are blessed enough to have some spare disposable income at any given time that hell, if 2k slapped a 20,000 VC tag on completely updated and authentic playbooks and defensive schemes, 10,000 VC on all cyberfaces for added players, 30,000 VC for an expanded Edit Player and Create a Player suite 10,000VC for 2 way contracts and more authentic CBA rules in MyNBA online or 50,000 VC for a fully integrated GLeague with all real players, bet your *** I'd pay. I'm dead serious and although many would be just as upset as when they first introduced VC to ANYONE, the fiends like us would fiend away lol.
And if we couldn't afford it, we'd grind away and be contributing like madmen to the VC glitches every September lol.

Thats what I say the whole time. Czar is just way to "basketball nerdy" (like ourself) to let stuff like that happen on his own will.

[trandoanhung1991]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Just want to be clear about something though.

This applies to the dev team as a whole too, but especially with what i know about the MyNBA team, and the respect admiration I have for Czar, I know the dev team isn't content with an aspect of the game that doesn't resemble basketball or in our eyes, makes the game worse. Hell, you can hear it in Czar's voice lol. I know that most of the time, these decisions that negatively affect our experience as hardcore NBA fans comes from their bosses who do not share the same passion for basketball. It's to those, the ones who make my money feel as though it has less worth, that I direct my words of "trash" at. Bleep them.

And before the argument of VC comes up, let me say 2 things, 1) all VC does is expedite the experience for MyPlayer and MyTeam modes. They aren't paying extra for their game mode. It's the same $70 game with or without VC. The thing is, 2) we don't have those options. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm sure I speak for those of us who are blessed enough to have some spare disposable income at any given time that hell, if 2k slapped a 20,000 VC tag on completely updated and authentic playbooks and defensive schemes, 10,000 VC on all cyberfaces for added players, 30,000 VC for an expanded Edit Player and Create a Player suite 10,000VC for 2 way contracts and more authentic CBA rules in MyNBA online or 50,000 VC for a fully integrated GLeague with all real players, bet your *** I'd pay. I'm dead serious and although many would be just as upset as when they first introduced VC to ANYONE, the fiends like us would fiend away lol.
And if we couldn't afford it, we'd grind away and be contributing like madmen to the VC glitches every September lol.

Hell, I wouldn't mind it if NBA 2k SIM version becomes an annual subscription, $60/year for updated rosters, playbooks, accurate tendencies and coaching quirks, and patches for free throughout the year. iRacing is living proof that model works.

[Barata]

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Testing the CPU PNR defense on HOF difficulty... This is sad.

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[vannwolfhawk]

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Testing the CPU PNR defense on HOF difficulty... This is sad.

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Between this and my video I don’t know what else needs to be said or shown. On HOF at that. The crazy thing is 2 days ago after patch the big was picking up better but the update today took it all away including the on ball.

I mean I get the cutter help and tag was probably a call from up above, but this with the big not containing, no help on drives, along with settings not working and ACE not adjusting is a nightmare. I’m truely stunned how bad this is compared to where it was.

[el jimmy]

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Testing the CPU PNR defense on HOF difficulty... This is sad.

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Before they removed cutter help d etc I was playing on all star and getting good challenging games. (It was actually the perfect difficulty balance because shooting windows weren't too harsh and you could hit stepbacks etc at a realistic rate)

Now difficulty levels don't matter and are an absolute joke.

You know I never played a 2k above superstar until 2k20?

Now two years in a row...this..😐

[ChaseB]

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So after reading all these from the courtside what should we think about the game we bought and played for a while then...





Courtside Defense Part: https://nba.2k.com/courtside-report/nba-2k22-gameplay

I have no real comment since I've already written everything up etc., but I just wanted to say this gives me, like, anxiety just looking at it. It feels like I'm looking at some English paper where I totally got a D on it in high school and these are all the teacher's markings on it haha.

[ataman5]

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I have no real comment since I've already written everything up etc., but I just wanted to say this gives me, like, anxiety just looking at it. It feels like I'm looking at some English paper where I totally got a D on it in high school and these are all the teacher's markings on it haha.

I'm also an english teacher Chase for real, a pretty good catch.

[goma76]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Testing the CPU PNR defense on HOF difficulty... This is sad.

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After seeing this, nothing to say, nothing to add.
This is totally inaccettable!
Wake up developer this game needs to be fixed ASAP