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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #211
    Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by illwill10
    Sam Cassell is joining Celtics coaching staff. I was hoping he would stay, but I understand. I do think it'll be good for Cassell to get out of Doc's shadow. Another good Boston season and glowing reviews and I think he'll have a legit shot at a HC job next year

    That might be a contingency plan for Boston and what Mazzulla does going forward too.

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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #212
      Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

      Been a busy few days for me. But I actually love the Vogel hire. They need somebody who can come in and get some much better deceive discipline. His offensive creativity feels lacking but they have CP3, Booker, and KD. They’ll be fine on that end always lol.

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      • illwill10
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2009
        • 19822

        #213
        Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by ojandpizza
        That might be a contingency plan for Boston and what Mazzulla does going forward too.
        Yes, if it goes sideways, it's a potential interim job or Cassell

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        • illwill10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 19822

          #214
          Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

          "Sources: Kyrie Irving has reached out to Lakers star LeBron James in attempts to see if James would come to Dallas. Irving is a free agent this offseason."

          Seems backwards lol

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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #215
            Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by illwill10
            "Sources: Kyrie Irving has reached out to Lakers star LeBron James in attempts to see if James would come to Dallas. Irving is a free agent this offseason."

            Seems backwards lol
            This tweet lol

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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #216
              Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

              Depending on what LAL does this off-season and what direction they want to move going forward, if they don't feel they are a contender getting back a 10th pick for a guy whos hitting 39 with some injury concerns is basically the ideal haul no?

              Obviously things are different if they feel like they can win. If they feel like after this season they still have room to either continue winning or utilize cap space. But if the thought is we don't have the pieces/don't want to spend the money to win, and then Bron walks to play with his son...

              Side note to that, would Bron be ok with or even push for a trade (technically he doesn't have veto power but still) to play with Kyrie? They are close and have won together, but same goes for he and AD..

              And complete curveball.. but fun to think about... If you're Dallas would you trade Luka if it meant getting LeBron and AD both?

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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47582

                #217
                Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by illwill10
                "Sources: Kyrie Irving has reached out to Lakers star LeBron James in attempts to see if James would come to Dallas. Irving is a free agent this offseason."



                Seems backwards lol
                I wonder if that's Kyrie or maybe Cuban through Kyrie trying to get LeBron.

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #218
                  Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                  Lol they been talking since last offseason let’s be forreal now
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • ojandpizza
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #219
                    Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                    According to Chris Haynes Dallas had intended to make an offer for LeBron this year before the Lakers deadline moves indicated they were trying to turn their season around..



                    Some of the tweets following this are hilarious though.

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                    • dubcity
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • May 2012
                      • 17874

                      #220
                      Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                      LeBron's gotta be the one to pick the meeting spot. Walking into Dallas is like walking into a trap the way Kyrie is. Maybe he could do it for just one season and then go somewhere else.

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #221
                        2023 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                        Lol they been talking since last offseason let’s be forreal now
                        Quoting this because I’m positive none of us have actually read/studied the CBA but either way that move can’t happen even if both wanted it to, lol.

                        More likely scenario(in this particular case)is Kyrie goes to LA. Not saying it’s going to happen so relax, just speaking on *this* scenario. And even that will tough to do as well sooo yeah.
                        Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 06-05-2023, 03:41 PM.
                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • ojandpizza
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #222
                          Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                          You're throwing me off quoting yourself but also what are we missing here? It looks like Dallas has enough salary to make a trade straight across. Nobody the Lakers would want obviously, but picks would be the haul.

                          Hardaway, Bertans, and Bullock matches money, they have picks to trade including this years number 10 pick. Not saying the Lakers would do that either, but if the alternative is him walking after next year.. Multiple picks for a guy turning 39 isn't bad for them.

                          Not saying it's likely. This all feels more like "noise" than anything, most likely for the Lakers to pursue Kyrie. Just like the comments about being un-sure what next years roster will look like, and the "retirement" talk.. But the Kyrie going to LAL is a far more "difficult" path unless Kyrie is willingly ready to take a STEEEP pay cut.

                          To reach anywhere near enough free money to sign Kyrie outright as a FA I think the Lakers would have to renounce rights to most of the roster. Let DLo walk, let Rui walk, and let all the free agents walk, renounce rights to Beasley and Bamba while retaining rights to Reaves. That would give them Bron-AD-Reaves-Vando-Christie but even in that scenario Kyrie would have to sign for like 30 million. Well below his max. Lakers would also be trading the number 17 pick in that example for no incoming salary, otherwise that number for Kyrie drops to the high 20s. That leaves the Lakers with their MLE and minimum contracts for the rest of the roster.

                          If they do a sign and trade with Dallas for Kyrie they become hard-capped. Dallas would have to participate (which has been reported they won't) and Kyrie would likely have to basically demand the trade or walk. Davis-Bron-Kyrie (at his max) leaves them with with like 35mil to the hard cap. Regardless of what money is thrown at Reaves Lakers can match with the first year around 11m (Arenas provision), and Christie gets them to around 20m to fill out the rest of the roster. But at no point can they go over that in-season because they are hard-capped.. Again Kyrie could help out here, would he sign for 10 mil less a year to try and retain Rui? idk.. Seems unlikely but if the money doesn't matter.. Could he even sign for a 1+1 type of deal with an agreement with Bron that Kyrie can re-sign for his max after this year and Bron take a smaller offer? Who knows, it's possible but not likely.
                          Last edited by ojandpizza; 06-05-2023, 04:14 PM.

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #223
                            Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            Quoting this because I’m positive none of us have actually read/studied the CBA but either way that move can’t happen even if both wanted it to, lol.

                            More likely scenario(in this particular case)is Kyrie goes to LA. Not saying it’s going to happen so relax, just speaking on *this* scenario. And even that will tough to do as well sooo yeah.
                            Wait are you referring to the Chris Haynes quote? I forgot Bron couldn't be traded in season. Shows how legitimate Chris Hayens reporting is lol. Bron is clear to be traded now though.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47582

                              #224
                              Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                              Nash and Jordi Fernandez aren't getting 2nd interviews with Raptors.

                              I think this is Scariolos job to lose at this point. They're fine delaying his interviews due to his current team commitments, so that sounds to me like they wouldn't be doing that for just one of many candidates, but they'd do it for their leading one.

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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #225
                                Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

                                @King - Being seeing the Bulls are interested in locking up Vuc for the next 3 years.. What are your thoughts on that?

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