2023 Offseason Thread

[illwill10]

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It does feel weird seeing the head coach of a team who faced the 76ers twice in the last 4 years now join them.

Provably happened more recently than I think, but I wonder how often you see a coach join a team he went up against multiple times in the playoffs in less than 5 years.

And he's probably been the best at defending against Embiid. My hope is that he can use that knowledge to help improve Embiid against those type of defenses. I do think going for a non-player's coach might help Embiid and company.

I wasn't against going for a first time coach. But, I understand going for a retread. You have Embiid in his prime for like 2-3 more seasons max, uncertainty about Harden(he can leave for all I care), and you're in a must win now mode.

[Majingir]

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Speaking of coaches, Jordi Fernandez (Kings assistant) is another name who could be in the running for the Raptors.

[georgiafan]

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So what do we think will happen with Jaylen Brown? Isn't the move for him to sign the supermax deal and then get traded later on.

I've already got tired of trying to convince Atlanta fans (his hometown) trading Collins, Hunter and like two non-lottery 1st isn't going to get the deal done lol

[ProfessaPackMan]

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He’s probably worth some late 2nds so he should be easily attainable for any team that wants him especially with his value so shot from being the worst player on the Celtics.

[King_B_Mack]

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He’s probably worth some late 2nds so he should be easily attainable for any team that wants him especially with his value so shot from being the worst player on the Celtics.

Who would trade for him, he’s looking for a max contract and clearly he’s not a max player. He should probably start brushing up on his Chinese honestly


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[King_B_Mack]

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BREAKING: Golden State’s Bob Myers – a two-time executive of the year and architect of four NBA championships -- is stepping down as the franchise’s president and general manager, he told ESPN on Tuesday. “It’s just time,” Myers said.

Where does everybody think he ends up?

[jeebs9]

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Where does everybody think he ends up?

Wait WTF?!!!


They don't want to pay him?

[BleacherBum2310]

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So what do we think will happen with Jaylen Brown? Isn't the move for him to sign the supermax deal and then get traded later on.

I've already got tired of trying to convince Atlanta fans (his hometown) trading Collins, Hunter and like two non-lottery 1st isn't going to get the deal down lol

probably but they should to look to move him. I just don't get this idea he's more tradeable once he's on the supermax tho. not you but that narrative because if you are still looking to trade him that means he still has some of the same problems he has now. no contract is untradeable though.

[ojandpizza]

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As far as Jaylen Brown goes I feel like if the extension talks go nowhere you have to start shopping him. If he'll sign the extension with Boston then I don't really see a reason to panic and just ship him out this off-season because you didn't get a ring. He has shown flaws with having to be more of a high usage ball handler, but playing with Tatum and just getting him in move off-ball and movement situations neutralizes most of that. I don't think making roster decisions based on Tatum rolling an ankle is the play.

I do wonder what the ceiling of this duo is. On one hand they've been to the conference semis, conference finals (3x), and the finals every year both Tatum and Brown have been available. Both of them are still young, all of Jordan, Shaq, Bron, Steph, got their first rings when they were older than Tatum and had lengthy runs after that. On the other hand they've been a good team since the jump and haven't been able to add that 3rd key piece and won't ever have the cap space to sign one outright. It's possible they've peaked without a big shuffle to the rest of the team, or without moving one of the stars.

I know "peaked" is a weird term for a duo that is like 4 years away from either of them hitting 30, but player movement today shortens the window of everything. Horford only has so much time left, Rob is frequently injured, Smart/White/Brogdon are fairly redundant and all under big contracts for the next two years.. I don't have a read on Tatum/Brown internally, obviously, but if either of them have the intention of bolting, or even consider it, that changes everything. Would be really difficult to be a GM in today's NBA is all I know.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Wait WTF?!!!


They don't want to pay him?

https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...eekend_i_think

He doesn’t want to be there.

[georgiafan]

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Feels like before any trade talks can even begin to happen Boston must decide 1st if they will offer him the supermax. Because I don't see him taking less than that. I guess its the thought that whoever trades for him isn't going to lose him after 1 year.

Seems like Boston is in a bit tougher spot now after forcing a game 7 then had they got swept. Its going to be hard to fire a coach that was 1 game from the finals who has event had the job a full year.

probably but they should to look to move him. I just don't get this idea he's more tradeable once he's on the supermax tho. not you but that narrative because if you are still looking to trade him that means he still has some of the same problems he has now. no contract is untradeable though.

[The Chef]

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Who would trade for him, he’s looking for a max contract and clearly he’s not a max player. He should probably start brushing up on his Chinese honestly


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And that max contract is something like 5 years $295m which is absurd money for him. Then Tatum is eligible next summer at 5 yrs $310m so they'd have $600m in salary locked up for next 5 years if they kept them together.

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[ojandpizza]

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And that max contract is something like 5 years $295m which is absurd money for him. Then Tatum is eligible next summer at 5 yrs $310m so they'd have $600m in salary locked up for next 5 years if they kept them together.

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Is it absurd money if they win?

Only asking because all those contracts look bad at first. By then end of them they seem more team-friendly because the amount of the "max" has went up because it's always a percentage that is increasing in value.

Not many guys who make the All-Star team and All-NBA in their mid-20s aren't getting their max thrown at them. This year seemed like a bit of an "inflation year" for stats but still he was around 27/7/4 on the year. A couple small improvements to his game like tightening up that handle, and getting his 3pt% back to where it was 2-3 years ago will have him producing like a top-10 caliber guy.

He also defends. Not sure that he's going to be "elite" on that end at any given time but he's a good defender who is probably years way from slowing down and becoming even neutral on that end.. Much less bad.

For Boston, it's probably best for them that he earned his super-max by making All-NBA. That gives him a reason to sign his extension this off-season. Before he could have made more money by waiting, putting pressure on Boston because he also could have walked for nothing at the end of next year. Meaning even if they kept him, he stayed, all that, Boston would have still been dealing with the "do they trade Jaylen" and "will he leave at the end of this year" rumors and talk all season long next year.

To me this makes this a bit easier. You try to get him to sign the super max extension now. If he never lives up to that oh well, you trade him to a team that can't get free agents. Regardless you either have him locked up, or whatever you trade him for down the line. That money has to go to somebody regardless.

If he won't sign the extension this off-season then you basically know he's contemplating the idea of leaving and at least wants to entertain being a free-agent. Makes it way easier to go ahead and pull the trigger on a trade IMO.

[georgiafan]

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@KeithSmithNBA

Because I've heard it wrongly stated on two prominent podcasts today:

Boston is the only team that can offer Jaylen Brown the super max. BOS can offer him projected 5 years, $290.3M

Another team if they trade for Brown or sign him in FA is limited to projected 4 years, $184.5M.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...eekend_i_think

He doesn’t want to be there.

It's funny how often people want a break from the grind as they're coming up on a difficult season/making difficult decisions.

Seems like he's just getting out before the dynasty crumbles.