2023 Offseason Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Probably right, which is why I doubt they’ll end up making the move lol.

But if it did require Ingram or Zion, I kinda think they’d include Zion at this point. Maybe I’m wrong though. Truly no idea how New Orleans may value those two guys but it feels like trading Ingram for Scoot doesn’t really help them at all.

I imagine they’d try to include CJ instead of either one of them but obviously wouldn’t blame Charlotte/Portland for holding out for one of the other two.

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I feel like from a business aspect, trading Zion wouldn’t necessarily be smart business.

[illwill10]

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I feel like from a business aspect, trading Zion wouldn’t necessarily be smart business.

I agree from that standpoint. You're only trading Zion if you have ZERO faith in Zion staying healthy/in shape. Zion puts butts in seats(you can use jokes for that lol). If I'm Charlotte, I would take Zion just for business purposes lol.

[illwill10]

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I'm not interested in a Philly trade for Beal, as I seen the reports today. I wasn't interested in Beal when the whole Simmons trade saga was going down. Out of the big 3 guys(Dame, Harden, Beal), Beal was my last choice. My first choice was Dame, then I was all for going after Haliburton. Beal's 30, on a terrible contract, doesn't defend, hasn't been a good 3pt shooter since Wall got hurt, hasn't played more than 60 games in 4 seasons. I think Beal would do better if he was playing with a true PG to help set him up instead of having to create for himself and others. Might sound homerish, but Maxey can give you what Beal does. Only "big" name I would trade for is Zach Lavine, but I would see Bulls trading DeRozan before they trade Lavine. If not Lavine, then I would rather go the depth route instead of going after a big name.

With the new CBA, I would love to see Maxey develop as a facilitator. He was good at keeping turnovers down as lead guard before Harden, but he struggled with deferring too much as a lead guard. In a perfect world, he develops into a 25-8 PG and you build around him and Embiid

[King_B_Mack]

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Welp now it's all us loser's time to shine now that we are officially into the offseason.

Pack and jeebs did y'all see that report a couple weeks ago that Brooklyn is planning on "heavily pursuing" Zach Lavine this offseason. Thoughts on that? You guys interested in Zach? What would that deal look like?

[jeebs9]

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Welp now it's all us loser's time to shine now that we are officially into the offseason.



Pack and jeebs did y'all see that report a couple weeks ago that Brooklyn is planning on "heavily pursuing" Zach Lavine this offseason. Thoughts on that? You guys interested in Zach? What would that deal look like?

Man I'm simply in a place of I don't give a **** about the Nets until after the draft lol. It's been a rough season overall. I don't want Zach. I rather develop and make moves for the future. I've been Star burned after the last situation. Like pack said last night. Really happy for all the former Nets getting that chip last night. Well deserved!

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Jeebs is a Knicks Fan, I ain’t forget how he was rooting for them in the playoffs smh lol. Can’t be rooting for no division/cross city rival.

And King, where did that rumor come from? First time hearing that one, not that I believe it anyway because I don’t. Only stuff I’ve heard from our end is regarding Cam and whether the team should commit to starting from scratch again, which would include trading Bridges, or going all in and looking to get more guys to help them win.

Basically make a decision about what they want to commit to and stop trying to do both.

[King_B_Mack]

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Jeebs is a Knicks Fan, I ain’t forget how he was rooting for them in the playoffs smh lol. Can’t be rooting for no division/cross city rival.

And King, where did that rumor come from? First time hearing that one, not that I believe it anyway because I don’t. Only stuff I’ve heard from our end is regarding Cam and whether the team should commit to starting from scratch again, which would include trading Bridges, or going all in and looking to get more guys to help them win.

Basically make a decision about what they want to commit to and stop trying to do both.

Can't remember where I saw it honestly. I know the Knicks and Nets were talked about having interest in him according to reports at the time, Bleacher Report I know talked about that one.

I don't buy it myself, but figured I'd see what non-idiotic Nets fans that I know thought about it

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Can't remember where I saw it honestly. I know the Knicks and Nets were talked about having interest in him according to reports at the time, Bleacher Report I know talked about that one.



I don't buy it myself, but figured I'd see what non-idiotic Nets fans that I know thought about it

To be honest, most of them fools have been on Dame Watch ever since he showed up at Game 3 in BK during the Sixers series and of course we know how fans think when it comes to that sort of thing(“Dame is gonna have us on his list when he requests his trade!”)

What’s gonna be the deal with Lonzo? You think they might end up drafting his replacement this year, just to be prepared in the event that he won’t come back/be the same player he was for y’all?

[King_B_Mack]

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To be honest, most of them fools have been on Dame Watch ever since he showed up at Game 3 in BK during the Sixers series and of course we know how fans think when it comes to that sort of thing(“Dame is gonna have us on his list when he requests his trade!”)

What’s gonna be the deal with Lonzo? You think they might end up drafting his replacement this year, just to be prepared in the event that he won’t come back/be the same player he was for y’all?

Didn't know there was any buzz (warranted or not lol) about Dame around y'all. But yeah, you know fans are gonna be beating the hell out of that drum.

I honestly don't know how this is gonna go with Lonzo. I think his career is done, but it's hard to know what AK thinks cause he doesn't tell anybody anything, he just does it. Unless there's a draft night trade or sometime this week or leading up to next Thursday they won't be drafting a PG cause they don't have a pick next week. Their first is going to Orlando and the league is snatching the second rounder for the Lonzo tampering (which still pisses me off). So I'm not sure what's going to happen. Feels like based on his end of season press conference where he kept mentioning the draft and the fact they've still been meeting with Scoot and all these other dudes that are getting drafted in the lottery, I feel like AK may be looking at a trade in this next week to get into the draft. But like I said he's hard to read, cause I could just as easily see this draft come and go without them doing anything

[ojandpizza]

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Saw this idea from just random internet discussion rather than from an actual source... But what would yall consider the odds of this happening?

If Phoenix was going to waive Chris Paul they would still be on the hook for 16m (15.8). At his 30m contract the Lakers can actually trade for Paul right now with the contracts of Mo Bamba and Malik Beasley.

That might not be a super attractive offer for Phoenix, but Beasley gives them needed shooting and Bamba an extra big which could be valuable if they shop Ayton.. But Phoenix could also just waive Bamba before his money is guaranteed. Meaning that for the same 16m they would be paying Chris Paul anyways they could be paying for a shooter in Beasley. Which even if he doesn't play is better than 16m spent on an empty roster spot. Beasley is also going to be much easier to re-trade, so if moving him to a team with cap for someone cheaper they could save even more money on top of all that.

I don't see the Lakers throwing in a first round pick, or Christie to get something like that done. But a 2nd round pick or something might be realistic. Which for Phoenix is basically just adding a "free" draft pick with the possibility of adding a valuable shooter, if their plan was to just outright waive CP. Obviously if other/better trades come about then they would do that instead.

Leaves the Lakers on the hook for 30m to Paul next year, but the year after his contract is non-guaranteed. Meaning they could in theory drop all of Bron, AD, CP3 after next year, or try to run them all back again. It also gives them the opportunity to still use DLo in a S&T. Whether that means chasing a guy like Hield, or Portis from the Bucks which has been the only real Lakers rumor other than them wanting to keep Reaves, Rui, and Dennis.

TL;DR - Lakers potentially turn DLo into a shooter or depth, and add CP3 in place of Beasley+Bamba who were out of the rotation anyways. The rest of the core is just brought back. Phoenix spends the same amount of money they would by waiving CP3 but add shooting and a draft pick, could possibly shed even more money by moving Beasley again.

[ojandpizza]

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Feels like based on his end of season press conference where he kept mentioning the draft and the fact they've still been meeting with Scoot and all these other dudes that are getting drafted in the lottery, I feel like AK may be looking at a trade in this next week to get into the draft. But like I said he's hard to read, cause I could just as easily see this draft come and go without them doing anything

Not necessarily pertaining to the Bulls but just in general it feels this could be a wild off-season. Lot's of teams need to shed some cap, free agent pool is pretty weak, draft seems top heavy. I bet we see some big shifts.

[King_B_Mack]

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Not necessarily pertaining to the Bulls but just in general it feels this could be a wild off-season. Lot's of teams need to shed some cap, free agent pool is pretty weak, draft seems top heavy. I bet we see some big shifts.

Agreed. I get a feeling we're gonna see a big trade like Monday or Tuesday and then some movement on Thursday. Just don't know who's gonna be the ones making the moves. Think someone is coming up to 3 with Portland trading out though

[Majingir]

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Raptors new coach (yes, this is his actual team photoshoot)

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Here you go, Will:

https://twitter.com/phillypmc/status/1668622248109031425?s=46&t=bmmyw4g-qEId3d4KHhv-qw

What’s your thoughts on this?

[georgiafan]

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The lakers don't need another old and injured player especially one at 30 Million. I would rather have Beasley and Bamba as expiring contracts. They could be traded to any team during the year as expiring's where Paul you can't do that.

Saw this idea from just random internet discussion rather than from an actual source... But what would yall consider the odds of this happening?