10:01 PM - September 13, 2010 by Steve_OS
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NBA Elite 11 News Post
10:01 PM - September 13, 2010 by Steve_OS
NBA Elite 11 Videos
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# 81
Boilerbuzz @ 09/14/10 12:40 AM
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# 83
Boilerbuzz @ 09/14/10 12:42 AM
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Look man, that dude knows exactly why he was banned. Seeing the red card is only there as a reason to mark banned users for Millineum
As far as the discussion on the issues im pointing out because truthfully its a huge exercise in frustration.
It shouldnt even be in this years game that guys are magically getting back on defense again.. the rating editing was painstaking effort and honestly I dont trust EA to rectify them since its never been done before.. im just being honest
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Even then, I think total control is just a marketing way of saying "more choices". They just broke things down an extra level. I also spent most of last year on Live 10 because of how great the general controls were.
From the very first announcement about Elite, EA showed they had an internal goal and method to attempt to achieve it (focus on Elite's controls & physics). Gamers didn't ask for it, nor did we get most of what we did ask for. EA should expect the requisite backlash for that.
I think its a bad idea to put the devs under that kind of a situation.
Who goes from full gameplay to 1 minute clips? Thats like backwards marketing, especially when it wasnt even extra ordinary.
Im not trying to rock the boat but good lord whats really going on man?
Im not of the its Live 07 again and theyre going to die group but dude this stuff is just weird to the average viewer.
Who goes from full gameplay to 1 minute clips? Thats like backwards marketing, especially when it wasnt even extra ordinary.
Im not trying to rock the boat but good lord whats really going on man?
Im not of the its Live 07 again and theyre going to die group but dude this stuff is just weird to the average viewer.
The problem that I have with these Elite videos is that the developers seem bent on showing you highlights. Can they show me some simulation style basketball and stop harping on highlights in each video. I know they had to release videos after that Boozer video was released, but even when they try to slow the game down all the players do is cross over, around the back, stutter step, etc. It gets old real fast just watching, and I am not playing the game yet.
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# 90
Boilerbuzz @ 09/14/10 01:06 AM
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Maybe graphics, but that's it.
You'll see when they admit this all in elite 12 when they don't appease the metacritic rate of 90 they so desperately want instead of listening to the gamers.
Just like 07's travesty.
OS is not a small community, We are sims nation, we are a microcosm of what sim/casual gamers want, go look at that wishlist, its long. To say people are bashing(because of negative constructive criticism) is ridiculous, that wishlist and complaints indicates passion for sim bball.
# 92
Boilerbuzz @ 09/14/10 01:09 AM
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Actually, didn't EA harp on the controls, last year, along with those damn 5 million pairs of sneakers avail in the game? Ha. Again, I will admit, the controls is what helped me not purchase the other game, last year, but to speak in this clip, err body pretty much got it right - Crazy ups and recovery speed.
rEAnimator - PLEASE get EA to focus on momentum (along with animations) next year. That first block attempt where dude comes running over then jumps to the moon, lands with NO momentum carry over and turns with ease to be able to recover and make another block attempt is upsetting to a bruva. Heh. Crawford's momentum should have had more of an affect in taking him out of the play with that kind of running leap.
rEAnimator - PLEASE get EA to focus on momentum (along with animations) next year. That first block attempt where dude comes running over then jumps to the moon, lands with NO momentum carry over and turns with ease to be able to recover and make another block attempt is upsetting to a bruva. Heh. Crawford's momentum should have had more of an affect in taking him out of the play with that kind of running leap.
# 94
Boilerbuzz @ 09/14/10 01:17 AM
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# 95
IV THA UNITY @ 09/14/10 01:31 AM
Crawford jumping and recovering to jump again is "NOT" real time physics. It's sad that they iterated on this aspect of the game and it seems absent it almost every video. I liked the controls in live 10. They could have been tweaked for more user control but not overhauled. I personally don't want a demo now because this game just looks basic in approach. There is nothing that separates Deron Williams from D-Wade to Carlos Arroyo. They all have the same moves. I wanna play an NBA game to play with NBA players and their move sets. This is just a Basketball game, not NBA basketball, I hope 12 is better next year because I am definitely not buying this because they Sacrificed animations for controls that only needed additions and not an overhaul. IDK, everything sounds good on paper, but in motion it looks bad to me.
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# 98
PRAY IV M3RCY @ 09/14/10 01:56 AM
what an incredibly unsatisfying video. Only a min long? Its the same moves over and over again. This isnt representing the sport of basketball in my opinion. All its showing me is a pickup game you might see in your
neighborhood, where people want to show off.
neighborhood, where people want to show off.
After seeing many of the other hands on videos as well as the head to heads released and being so, so disappointed by them, this looks really good. I hope to see more of the same.
# 100
rEAnimator @ 09/14/10 02:07 AM
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I have to run in a second (in korea at the korean games conference about to give my presentation) but I'll give it a quick go here.
Yes the verticals are unrealistic. But we did that intentionally to make another aspect of the game more realistic.
Basically, we took real life scenarios and tested them out in the game to make sure the game was responding like real life.
So take two equally tall players, put the defender right up on the ball carrier and and tell the defender "I'm going to shoot the ball in 3 seconds" and then do it.
In real life, the defender should block that shot 9/10 times.
In our game at the time, with realistic verticals, you could never, and I mean never, block that shot. The reasons are reaction delay, the time it took the animation to play out with the proper gather, and the general controller latency.
So we tuned the game until we got a real life result for that scenario.
We then proceeded to do the same thing with a ton of other real life scenarios.
What you're left with is a game that "controls" like real life, gives realistic results, but sacrifices realism in other areas, like verticals and jump gathers.
People may not agree with our choices, but you have to admit that it is a perfectly valid approach to building a sim game.
And it offers something gamers haven't had before in a basketball game.
Usually that kind of thing would be appreciated by the hard core.
I'm hoping once the demo gets out people will start to understand better.
hope this made sense...so jet lagged
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