so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I'm not trying to disprove anything! I'm showing that it may not be as cut and dry as simply turning the option on/off. Thats it.



My intentions are to discuss this topic. And again, I'm not defending the game, attacking your opinion, or trying to disprove your findings. I'm offering up my findings so that we can all see if there is maybe something else at play besides turning the option on/off. I'm not trying to post evidence that I'm right and your wrong, just posting my findings on this subject.

Its funny though, someone posts there boxscores that agree with your opinion and its all good, I post one that is opposite and I'm a bad guy. And as I said, I posted this so that I have these here for all to see and compare to when I post with the option turned on. But before I can get to that point, I have to explain myself for whatever reason.

So I'm childish. But yet, I'm not the one that throws a fit when someone doesnt' agree with them.

CB how come your screeshot disproved the theory?
i mean, u posted a close score with the option set to OFF...
so thats what we(guys that weere seeing the problem) were seeing all of the time with the option turned off..

if u posted that screenshot with it ON, u could be onto something, althouhg 2 run games happen very often...

but what would/could really start to disprove the theory would be u having a good amount of blow out games with the option OFF

[sooner1]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

The programing codes in this game are whack. This is exactly what I was talking about. You know when you have entered the twilight zone in this game. Thus makes it very evident when you get the hell outta there!!

[countryboy]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

My "evidence" is the other credible people here finding the same thing TO A TEE as me.

It's seriously a slap in the face when someone comes on and posts a picture of a box score (like that proves anything). It's a slap in the face because it's basically saying you are lying or you aren't seeing it right. I am trying to help people. I never was here to argue any points with anybody. I just don't see how people have to be so closed minded about this. I have no problem with people playing with it OFF. But, what's the point in coming in this thread and just trying to disprove this. There really is no point at all. This is a discussion to help people that were having problems with the game. A lot seem to be enjoying it more now. Is that such a bad thing to do??

I, and everybody else here must be seeing things though because countryboy posted a box score of a 2-0 game on legend with it off. I have played plenty of games and won by 2 runs on legend. In fact most of my games I have won by 1. It's just so ridiculous to argue this.

So we are only allowed to agree with your findings before posting in this thread? And I also won 4-0 with the option off, not that it matters or anything. Wasn't a 4 run lead one of the sticking points that triggered comeback AI?

And others have posted boxscores that agreed with you and you were cool with that. I guess since my isn't "in line' with your theory, then I'm out of line.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Interesting. So to question your theory is to question your validity? You seem to want to change the rules as you go. You want the "discussion" (that, by your words, should not really a discussion) to be all grey area, so nobody is right or wrong. Yet you make constant black and white arguments on the subject.

No offense, but you can't have it both ways. If you are going to be so stubbornly tied to your ideas, then don't jump on people for being tied to their's...pretty simple.

As I said before, people's PERCEPTION may be gray area, but whether or not a feature functions or not is pretty straight forward. If people wish to share information they believe shows the mode functioning correctly, that's their right. As it's yours to post whatever you wish giving credence to your theory.

This quasi-guru tone you take with the issue is a bit much. You say this is here to help people, yet you ignore anyone's offering of help that doesn't run parallel with your theory. CB, for example, only posts information in these threads to help people out. So where's the concern for HIS validity?

This is a discussion forum and people with varying viewpoints on the topic will jump in. As long as they aren't attacking and are trying to reasonably discuss the issue, there is no reason to shush them and send them packing.

Your own comments can easily be flipped. "In all honesty questioning this reversed option is just questioning my validity as a poster here at OS. I am not lying with what I see."

By your logic, you are questioning SCEA's credibilty as developers. Is that fair? Of course not. Nobody's questioning YOUR validity. What people are questioning is whether or not there is something amiss with a game feature.

Whether you want that discussion to happen or not is irrelevent. It's a discussion forum and people have the right to respectfully discuss the opposing view as well.

I honestly appreciate you sharing your findings. I'm sure those who share your concerns do even more. I just don't think it's fair for you to constantly rebuke people for sharing their views and their references to what THEY see as well.

I never discredited or tryed to on anybodys views. I said if you want to play with it OFF then play with it OFF. It you want to play with it ON then play with it ON. Look this is a thread about a baseball game. It's not about an argument. Let's lay off the drama. Let's talk about the game.

[bcruise]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I, and everybody else here must be seeing things though because countryboy posted a box score of a 2-0 game on legend with it off. I have played plenty of games and won by 2 runs on legend. In fact most of my games I have won by 1. It's just so ridiculous to argue this.

My last post on this topic, since I'm apparently one of the dissenters for posting that Cards-Cubs box a while ago:

This is the part that bothers me. You're saying that you don't want people contesting your claim in this thread (because it's a slap in the face), but at the same time you're saying almost everyone who's posted in this thread agrees with you. You don't see a problem there?

BTW, I apologize for missing your quoted post with the description - evidently I wasn't the only one (the post directly after mine).

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

ok, let me ask this that for everybody

HAS ANYONE THAT TRIED(PLAYED, NO MOM) THE OPTION ON FELT THE COMEBACK CODE KICKED IN AND MADE THE GAME CLOSE?

becasue if theres not evan one person, we can already afirm that for a start the option is broken...than we can get to other assumptions like the option is reversed..but for me whats cleary now is that the option is broken.

thats a simple question..because i see some people that didnt try it disvaluing it without evan test it first.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

So we are only allowed to agree with your findings before posting in this thread? And I also won 4-0 with the option off, not that it matters or anything. Wasn't a 4 run lead one of the sticking points that triggered comeback AI?

This is what I mean. I am simply saying right now I am not going to argue this. It's absolutley ridiculous to argue this. There is no point that I can make that will completley make you say "ahhhh I see" and there is certainly no point that you will make that's going to make me a believer either. Let's just agree to disagree and be adults here. If you want to try it on and see a difference and like how it plays then fine. If you want to keep playing it off then play with it off. This is too good of a game to be sitting in the PS3 while we are arguing about an option that is to be used in the game. On or off. That's ultimately what we are arguing here. On or off. Do you want to play with it on or off?? THat's all this comes down to. Forget about the whole comeback. Look at it like an option. Like I said a million times this is an under the hood thing that there is no definitive answers for. Just because you win by 4 doesn't mean anything just like if I win by 9. Because they ARE BOTH POSSIBLE. I can win a game by 4 and say look no comeback. All this could possibly mean is that I pitched better then the boost that the CPU was given with the comeback on if in fact it was on. Do you understand what I'm saying here?? THere just can't be any argument for either side.

I'm just happy to see people seeing the same thing and enjoying the game with it set to ON. Just like I'm happy seeing you CB enjoying the game with it OFF.

[sgthalka]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

And others have posted boxscores that agreed with you and you were cool with that. I guess since my isn't "in line' with your theory, then I'm out of line.

I would just try some games with Comeback turned ON and compare the results.

Dave is obviously an excitable guy.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I never discredited or tryed to on anybodys views. I said if you want to play with it OFF then play with it OFF. It you want to play with it ON then play with it ON. Look this is a thread about a baseball game. It's not about an argument. Let's lay off the drama. Let's talk about the game.

lol...it's drama to comment on a dramatic comment? You bascially claimed anyone who openly discuss opposing views are trying to question your validity. You seem to want a one sided discussion.

Oh well. We agree on one thing. It's a game, shouldn't be an argument The irony is, nobody tried to create an argument. People are posting their findings.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

lol...it's drama to comment on a dramatic comment? You bascially claimed anyone who openly discuss opposing views are trying to question your validity. You seem to want a one sided discussion.

Oh well. We agree on one thing. It's a game, shouldn't be an argument The irony is, nobody tried to create an argument. People are posting their findings.

omg it doesn't end.

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

lol...it's drama to comment on a dramatic comment? You bascially claimed anyone who openly discuss opposing views are trying to question your validity. You seem to want a one sided discussion.

Oh well. We agree on one thing. It's a game, shouldn't be an argument The irony is, nobody tried to create an argument. People are posting their findings.

what findings?
we need to see findings with the option turned on...
with it turned off, its already been discussed over and over again...

[Segagendude]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Is this noticeable only in Legend or above modes?

Cause I see no diff in Veteran. Whether I'm up or down, the CPU always makes the game into a nail biter towards the end....

[shadyridr]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I just told my brother about this and he was so happy. Hes played about a month into the season and Mariano had 6 blown saves

[baseball66]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

This thread is for people to post their findings while playing the game on Legend with the cpu comeback turned ON. Anyone else posting in this thread is simply trying to stir the pot.

ps: Forgot to mention that fanboys aren't welcome and you know who you are.

[Marino]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

This thread is for people to post their findings while playing the game on Legend with the cpu comeback turned ON. Anyone else posting in this thread is simply trying to stir the pot.

ps: Forgot to mention that fanboys aren't welcome and you know who you are.