2016 Trade Deadline Thread

[Godgers12]

Re: 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

As I always do MLB.com scouting report.

Vogelbach:

Spoiler

Scouting grades: Hit: 55 | Power: 50 | Run: 20 | Arm: 40 | Field: 30 | Overall: 45
Vogelbach launched a 508-foot homer at the 2010 Power Showcase, breaking Bryce Harper's distance record at the international home run derby. He earned a $1.6 million bonus as a second-rounder and one of the best power hitters available in the 2011 Draft. While he has made steady progress and reached Double-A at age 22 last year, he hasn't had the impact the Cubs hoped for.

To his credit, Vogelbach is a more advanced hitter than expected. Rather than selling out for home runs, he controls the strike zone, makes consistent contact and uses the entire field. He still has obvious strength and raw power, though they translated into only a .436 slugging percentage in his first three years in full-season leagues.

Vogelbach will have to hit for more power to have big league value because he's extremely limited as a runner and defender. He has improved his conditioning since he carried 280 pounds on his 6-foot frame in high school, but he's still a baseclogger with little range at first base. Blocked by Anthony Rizzo with the Cubs, Vogelbach would be best served by a trade to an American League club so he could DH.

Nothing was available for Blackmon.

Sounds like a poor mans Mo Vaugn.

[DamnYanks2]

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Very nice pickup for seattle.

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[WaitTilNextYear]

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Yeah, I'm going to assume the worst with Kershaw now. Combine that with the latest news on Alex Wood and I'm all for getting Archer.

The Kershaw thing nobody could've really seen coming because he's been a piece of scrap iron over the last several years, but a lot of people could see loading up on injury-prone pitchers as a quick way to exhaust any perceived depth. Ryu and Wood were already in LA, but neither guy can be counted on at this point for serious innings. Ditto Brett Anderson who always gets hurt. Brandon McCarthy is upright....for the time being.

Really, LA has Kazmir, Maeda, and Norris as the somewhat sure things (although Norris' 6.72 combined ERA/5.04 combined FIP last year wouldn't make me extremely comfortable with him either). I think Norris' eventual home is in the bullpen there.

After that it's hoping that Urias, De Leon, and/or Stripling can be decent and learn quickly. And I don't think Bolsinger, Stewart, or Frias are being counted on for much of anything.

Even with Kershaw healthy, the Dodgers could've used a solid 2/3 starter. Without him, they might be considering a pair of Tampa starters. Archer and Odorizzi. Archer and Moore. Archer and Smyly. Something like that. It would make sense and any of those guys would love pitching at Chavez Ravine (look at those HR rates!).

[DamnYanks2]

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Yankees supposed to be sellers,and they win 4 in a row, 3 in a row against Baltimore.



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[redsox4evur]

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Yankees supposed to be sellers,and they win 4 in a row, 3 in a row against Baltimore.



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And they are only 5 GB in the 2nd WC and 5.5 of the 1st WC. I doubt they sell off completely.

[DamnYanks2]

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Yes, but with this current group, everything has to break right, for this team to even get the second wildcard spot.

This is a mediocre team that plays above their heads sometimes.

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[redsox4evur]

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Yes, but with this current group, everything has to break right, for this team to even get the second wildcard spot.

This is a mediocre team that plays above their heads sometimes.

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I still think they will sell. I think they sell off Beltran and Chapman. And then stand pat. I don't see them moving any players that are under contract after this season. And then come back for next year locked, loaded and older.

[DamnYanks2]

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As do I, and they should.The fan in me gets excited from time to time, but I sincerely doubt they can sustain itm

If they don't sell. They might as well become buyers.

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[AC]

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The command has eroded, so he's taken a demonstrable step back this year. But he's still valuable enough that the Rays would probably still get a pretty big return for him, which is why I'm a bit skeptical about getting him.

Yeah, I know Longoria gave the Rays a massive hometown discount a few years ago, but he's getting to the not-so-cheap phase of his contract ($100 million over the next 6 years). That's still a nice bargain for a player of Longoria's ability, but it's not cheap. And Friedman clearly does give a **** about money since he let Zack Greinke walk last year rather than pay him $200 million. The Dodgers have made some rumblings about getting the payroll under the luxury tax threshold, too.

The Dodgers already have a 3B who does a pretty good Longoria impression himself, at a fraction of the cost. If we traded for Longoria, we'd have to bench Utley and play Turner out of position at 2B.

That's more regression to the mean than anything. He's of course not what he was last year. He's still a great pitcher and now that you've said how much you didn't want him, I see that Kershaw is RIP'd and you now want him. That's a good taste of being a Toronto sports fan, actually.

I'm sure Friedman just didn't think Greinke would measurably outperform the guys who were asking for $15m like Kazmir, or Maeda, and that's not being penny pinching, it's just not being dumb. Sure enough, Kazmir hasn't been measurably worse than Greinke by xFIP-, and Maeda has been better. I heard some of Greinke's fancy stats coming into the year weren't great anyhow.

I wasn't arguing that you guys need Longo although you could just shift Turner to 2, no? With Kendrick playing everywhere? Anyway 6/100 is very cheap for a 4+ win player. He's in vintage form this year and most guys who aren't as boring as Tampa players are that put up 4 win players would get paid a lot more than that.

[ShowTyme15]

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Padres sign Cuban outfielder Jorge Ona.

[Godgers12]

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I honestly think the M's should explore trade possibilities for Felix. His trade value is as high as it will ever be, it will decline each year as he gets older. And if he has a steep decline in performance he won't have any value. Pains me to say it as I would hate to see him go. But we aren't making the playoffs this year, trade him to a contender so he has a shot at the playoffs. Felix and D.J. Pederson to the Cubs for Kris Bryant and Schwarber?

[dansaint]

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Felix and D.J. Pederson to the Cubs for Kris Bryant and Schwarber?

Cubs aren't dealing Kris Bryant.

Only way I could see them deal Schwarber would be in a mega deal scenario for someone like Trout (and that's probably not happening)

[DamnYanks2]

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I wouldn't deal Bryant for anybody right now. Cubs would never deal Bryant.

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[Godgers12]

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Cubs aren't dealing Kris Bryant.

Only way I could see them deal Schwarber would be in a mega deal scenario for someone like Trout (and that's probably not happening)

Felix would be a sub 2.5 ERA pitcher in the NL, add him to that rotation and they will go through the playoffs like the Warriors will go through the NBA next year. So they wouldn't need Bryant lol.

[dansaint]

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Felix would be a sub 2.5 ERA pitcher in the NL, add him to that rotation and they will go through the playoffs like the Warriors will go through the NBA next year. So they wouldn't need Bryant lol.

But you have a young slugger at a premier position against a guy who isn't the same pitcher as he once was.

You don't deal and up and coming superstar for someone who is closer to the decline of his career than the peak.

Now, I'm a Cardinals fan and I would love nothing more than to see Bryant out of my division and my league...but it isn't happening.

That deal would be criticised by EVERYONE in baseball. Cubs would be a joke.