No Man's Sky

[Mabster]

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I don't see anyone here attacking others for enjoying the game or not. Lots of us enjoyed it for the brief amount of time it took before we realized it was super repetitive. Most were commenting on the ****ty "ending" and commenting on the almost two month long silence from the devs which that tweet clearly shows.

[CMH]

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It doesn't help when the tweet you used was the last tweet he has sent out back on Aug 18.

I like the game but people totally have the right to complain especially since they have been silent for awhile.


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Have you been following the thread?

People are saying it's radio silence because they stole money and ran off with it.

All I'm saying is the developers outright said, "we are working on the game."

Is it more reasonable to assume they listened and shut up to work on things or that they ran off to an island laughing?

I'm just as disappointed in the game but I'm not ridiculous enough to think these guys scammed people and ran off with their money.

[Mabster]

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I'm just as disappointed in the game but I'm not ridiculous enough to think these guys scammed people and ran off with their money.

My comment about the Craigslist ad, as I assume others were, was tongue in cheek.

[CMH]

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On one hand I agree with you very strongly that OS has changed. I feel "snark" has come back in a big way and it just isn't as friendly as it used to be.

I also agree it is pretty common for people with the "unpopular opinion" to get "put on blast" a little bit. Maybe not attacked, per se, but just kind of "questioned" like "why do you like the game?" or "wow, really, you like the game?"

I am guilty of doing that and I am am trying to get better.

On the other hand, I really feel like some really poor choices were made with this game, pre and post launch. I wanted to love this game more than any other game, ever, and maybe that was my fault for putting so much stock into it. I won't call the dev's tactics "shady," I will just repeat and call it a series of "really poor" choices.

And yes, the troll job mentioned is so egregious that it is probably a good thing most people stopped playing well before reaching that point.

I do fear that no content updates are coming. I admit that I may be unjustified in that thinking and maybe its my bad for being so skeptical. In fairness to me, it seems like as weeks go on instead of rays of hope or leaks of good new, we instead get reports of why things went wrong (like Sean distancing himself from the Sony guy after that guy raised concerns over game content and pricing) and just a bunch of overall "weirdness" around this project.

I don't think anyone at Hello Games woke up one day and set out to "swindle" anyone. I think they started something that grew into something more massive than they ever would have thought, and that massive situation kicked their asses. Some people can handle an *** kicking like that, others cant. Seems like Sean is the latter. HG seems to have shrunk behind the pressure and that's fine, do what you gotta do. I just don't like that people were shamed SO HARD for having issues with the game off the get go.

That guy who bought the game for 2 grand (would love to know how he genuinely feels about that, now), he knew what was going to happen. The writing was on the wall when you watched his rundown video or read between the lines of his reddit post. People who didn't even own the game yet (because it still was 2 weeks before release) formed a committee (they literally called it an investigative committee) to try and defraud all of his claims about the game's shortcomings, including, and I kid you not, "there was a fingerprint smudge on the disc, so it can't be retail."

That is just one example. Again, this game is just choked with this thick poisonous cloud of weirdness from so many angles.

It is so easy for me to sit back and criticize, I realize that, and admit that I could never do anything like this. I could never create something so financially successful and famous. I respect HG for that, but at the same time, while they don't owe us anything, I think it would go a long way for Sean to sit down and just talk about what went wrong.

There is gonne be a documentary about this game one day. FW gonna be hit up for interviews lol



I agree. There was vitriol, hyperbole, and overreactions from both sides around launch time. It's twitter though, it's the internet. Not that it makes it OK, but I mean, I think we have to expect people to act that way online, unfortunately.

You apologize too much!

I'm there with you. I hyped myself for this game and I'm not happy with it either.

I think it was rushed out and HG is eating dirt because of their shortcomings.

But I don't think it makes sense to continue popping in this thread to demonize the people that played or enjoy the game, or to then claim the developers scammed everyone to the bank. Like seriously...that's really what we are going with on OS?

That crap was reserved for other boards. But that's where we are now as a community.

[dickey1331]

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Have you been following the thread?

People are saying it's radio silence because they stole money and ran off with it.

All I'm saying is the developers outright said, "we are working on the game."

Is it more reasonable to assume they listened and shut up to work on things or that they ran off to an island laughing?

I'm just as disappointed in the game but I'm not ridiculous enough to think these guys scammed people and ran off with their money.

I guess I haven't really seen the attacks on here. Reddit is a different story but here seemed pretty tame.


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[CMH]

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I don't see anyone here attacking others for enjoying the game or not. Lots of us enjoyed it for the brief amount of time it took before we realized it was super repetitive. Most were commenting on the ****ty "ending" and commenting on the almost two month long silence from the devs which that tweet clearly shows.

Words like "scam" and "cash grab" are insulting to people that put faith into the product and developers.

And it's one thing to say that - because I'm just as disappointed in the game so I can understand someone saying I was scammed. That doesn't hurt me - but it's another thing to ignore the facts behind the silence.

You can't claim these things and say they ran off with the money when the last tweet states they are working on things.

Let's use logic here. How does "we are working on improving and adding features" followed by radio silence equate to running off with the money?

Seems pretty obvious they are, uh, working on things and finally hunkered down to fix the incomplete game they made.

If HG commented every day, "oh you guys will love what we did today!" Do you know what the comments would be like on the Internet?

Here's a hint: it wouldn't be, "yes they are amazing!"

[CMH]

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Anyway, I stayed away from this thread for a while. I came back to read patch notes.

But it's a cesspool of garbage. I'll exit again. Enjoy the game, or enjoy making fun of those that do.

[Mabster]

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I'm not going to speak for anyone else but what I find so confusing about the silence is that it's in such stark contrast to their communications before launch.

Before launch they communicated about how hard they're working and how proud and excited they are of the product. They couldn't wait to see what people thought of it. If they're working on any additions or improvements why aren't they showing at least a tiny bit of the same exuberance about them?

I don't think anyone here is looking for or asking for daily constant updates. People are just venting their frustrations on what is a very confusing launch and situation. Maybe others have bit I've never seen a developer drop off the face of the planet like this so soon after a major launch

[kehlis]

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Words like "scam" and "cash grab" are insulting to people that put faith into the product and developers.

And it's one thing to say that - because I'm just as disappointed in the game so I can understand someone saying I was scammed. That doesn't hurt me - but it's another thing to ignore the facts behind the silence.

You can't claim these things and say they ran off with the money when the last tweet states they are working on things.

Let's use logic here. How does "we are working on improving and adding features" followed by radio silence equate to running off with the money?

Seems pretty obvious they are, uh, working on things and finally hunkered down to fix the incomplete game they made.

If HG commented every day, "oh you guys will love what we did today!" Do you know what the comments would be like on the Internet?

Here's a hint: it wouldn't be, "yes they are amazing!"

I agree with you that saying things like scam and cash grab are unfair. This dev team poured their lives into this for years.

I do think though that it's incredibly unfair to say that users have said that are saying anything negative towards those that enjoy the game.

If the last communication was more than two months ago it's not unreasonable to believe that the game may very well have been abandoned but no one really knows.

I don't think I've seen anything in the thread where users were attacking other users so I don't see that as a very fair accusation.

[The JareBear]

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I'm not going to speak for anyone else but what I find so confusing about the silence is that it's in such stark contrast to their communications before launch.

Before launch they communicated about how hard they're working and how proud and excited they are of the product. They couldn't wait to see what people thought of it. If they're working on any additions or improvements why aren't they showing at least a tiny bit of the same exuberance about them?

I don't think anyone here is looking for or asking for daily constant updates. People are just venting their frustrations on what is a very confusing launch and situation. Maybe others have bit I've never seen a developer drop off the face of the planet like this so soon after a major launch

Leading up to launch there were two things that kind of "tipped me off," or kind of alerted me to "something might be up."

A.) The size of the game

I know, it was explained on here that for a ProcGen game the size is deceiving, but still, this day and age for a game as huge as NMS was touted to be, 6 gigs (with most of that being music, according to Sean) seemed off to me. That just doesn't seem like a very big pool to draw resources from for your 18 quin random generation planets.

The second was Sean's reaction to the leaked copy and all that craziness taht ensued. I dunno. I just feel like I have never seen a dev make statements like that when their game's street date is broken. Not saying it never happens, but just that I haven't seen it anywhere else. If "everyone" was truling to have a "completely unique experience" where they will "see things no one else ever will (most likely)" why would it matter if people were watching gameplay.

I dunno. Again, it is easy for me to sit back and point and shout from my computer desk.

Bottom line is this game is what it is, and some people really love it and I think that is great. I hope the game keeps getting updates and that modders keep making it better and better.

Sorry if anything I said in this thread seemed like an attack on Sean, HG, or anyone who likes the game. I am glad there is a positive fanbase for it. So many of us counted down the days for 2 years and it is good that people got what they were looking for in some cases.

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Also, does this thread hold the record for "Most Users Posting In A Game Thread Who Don't Actually Own The Game?" Reading through this thread's history is SO wild lol.

(not saying guys who dont own the game shouldnt be posting, just saying that this game drew in such a wider audience than even most AAA games have)

[Picci]

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Well, as a Limited Edition ($80) owner who actually enjoyed the estimated 30 hours played, I can say this:

Am I disappointed in the game? Yes. Do I think Hello Games took my money and ran laughingly away in retirement? No. Will I give a small Indie company who has a good game underneath the hood to build upon the necessary time to add and fix content? Yes.

Don't want to speak for CMH but there's a frustration with the maturity levels in these threads that becomes "over the top" when you're hoping for useful news to read.

[Mr. Hanky]

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I don't own the game. Or even a PS4. But I was very much anticipating the game's release and I thought it would be the game i bought a PS4 just to play it. The aftermath of the game's release has been a very interesting phenomenon to observe. I agree with what somebody above stated, it could very well be the subject of a documentary in the future.

[Mabster]

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Don't want to speak for CMH but there's a frustration with the maturity levels in these threads that becomes "over the top" when you're hoping for useful news to read.

Now that, when put that way, I completely understand your frustration with how some here have shown their frustration with the situation. Seeing the thread pop up with new comments only for it to be more snarky remarks about something not update related. Just a whole lot of frustrations going around.

[The JareBear]

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I don't own the game. Or even a PS4. But I was very much anticipating the game's release and I thought it would be the game i bought a PS4 just to play it. The aftermath of the game's release has been a very interesting phenomenon to observe. I agree with what somebody above stated, it could very well be the subject of a documentary in the future.

I tweeted this at Mabster earlier but yeah, I have never seen anything like it, ever, as far as anything gaming related. It's truly been a legendary escapade of....stuff.

[Mabster]

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Future suggestion in the What's Good on Netflix thread?

Hope it has a good ending.