LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507)

[jeheinz72]

Also, do folks want me to work on the beds tonight or should I sleep? Let me know I'll put in my order for tonight now.

[PurdueBrad]

KWhit, I don't believe that they can pull off a mutiny because it takes an officer to start it, which we don't have. Correct?

[KWhit]

Vote bulletsponge


I'm leaning not only on the suspicious behavior surrounding the empath business but if we're under the idea that no starting Spawn had a Survivor Secret role then either there was just 1 starting spawn or bullet was the 2nd.

Remind me about the empath stuff.

[KWhit]

KWhit, I don't believe that they can pull off a mutiny because it takes an officer to start it, which we don't have. Correct?

It's automatic if I duke the vote.

[The Jackal]

we have clap saying he is in an absolute trust group, which doesnt make sense in multiple ways

explain this?

[jeheinz72]

Remind me about the empath stuff.

@ post 1775 MV outed himself as empath, at/around the time he was to be trained as doc. Keep in mind MV is confirmed good.

@ 2143 Chubby cryptically votes for MV and just says "more to come...". Chubby is confirmed Spawn, though it's true that we don't know at the time if he was yet (I don't think)

*before* he actually says anymore, bulletsponge votes for MV, in post 2150.

When Chubby finally says he's an empath, ends up cornered then pretends as if he got a good empath on a MV statement, bullet somewhat meekly retreads and votes Chubby (2498)

Just seems like a contrived interactions to put themselves on apparent opposite sides.

[KWhit]

Oh yeah yeah. Got it, just didn't know what you were referring to.

[Barkeep49]

If a person is on the spawn council that is not revealed at death, but their having any spawn powers are.

[jeheinz72]

IMO, that's enough for me. I think it is unlikely that we had just 1 starting spawn. 2 seems more plausible to me. I think I'm holding off on clap until after he works with Danny. So if one of Bullet and Sal are starting spawn (since Sal's secret role isn't actually verifiable) I pick Bullet to be the starting spawn since I'd highly doubt Sal was starting spawn, given his success on missions and such.

Sal could be a converted spawn due to being off the ship so much, but we'll deal with that later, imo.

[PurdueBrad]

I'll put a vote out there on him then:

vote bulletsponge

[KWhit]

Okay guys. We need to punt with our gut feel approach. I just asked BK a few questions about it and the response from him was essentially that the Gut Feel ability wouldn't work planned out like this. The votes had to be "real" to take effect.

So umm.... That great idea I had about how find out more about Saldana, Bullet, or Clap? Never mind. Vote for whomever you want.

[KWhit]

Oh, and I guess that makes sense from a meta-game point of view, kind of like the rules surrounding the empath statements.

So I don't have a problem with the ruling.

[claphamsa]

unvote heinze
vote buletspong

[claphamsa]

Oh, and I guess that makes sense from a meta-game point of view, kind of like the rules surrounding the empath statements.

So I don't have a problem with the ruling.


It was woerth a try :)

[jeheinz72]

Yeah, worth a shot but I get the ruling.

My vote is still staying where it is, I think bullet doesn't have a secret role because he's a starting spawn. 2 starting spawn would be a pretty fair start, certainly more fair than 1

[bulletsponge]

all this Bullet hate doesnt please me

[jeheinz72]

Bullet, have you been off the ship?

How do you suspect?

[bulletsponge]

no i havnt been off the ship

[KWhit]

Here's my trust list, from most Distrusted at the top to the most Trusted at the bottom.

Bulletsponge
Saldana
Claphamsa
Schmidty
jeheinz
The Jackal
PurdueBrad
Danny
KWhit

[KWhit]

So for now,

Vote Bulletsponge

[jeheinz72]

no i havnt been off the ship

Ok and who are you looking at and why?

[bulletsponge]

im not looking at anyone really

[jeheinz72]

Wow, uhm. Ok then. Guess I'll see you guys tomorrow as I have no reason to change my vote.

[claphamsa]

im not looking at anyone really
then open your eyes.... who do you see?

[Danny]

I wiorked on the beds! Danny mis typed!

That's not what my message said.

[Danny]

Oh and I am hope and catching up now.

[Danny]

Danny - You posted your work list a bit ago:



What about nights you worked also? Do you have those as well?

Those were my night actions. My ability only works during the night, it doesn't matter who I have worked with during the day.

[KWhit]

I'd like some more info on the Absolute Trust that PB, Jackal, and clap are claiming.

PB and Jackal, at first, what groups were you made aware of that held someone of trust for you?

[jeheinz72]

Ok, so just Danny and Clap should work the beds tonight.

But we can all work the beds today. I'll put my order in for that right now

[claphamsa]

what about the day? oh, ok.

started repsonding befreo i finshied reading :)

i did put in a order to work today,a nd BK said it was ok.......

[jeheinz72]

I wonder why he didn't announce it though, like all the others during the day.

I just sent mine in for today, and I'm sleeping tonight

[The Jackal]

I'd like some more info on the Absolute Trust that PB, Jackal, and clap are claiming.

PB and Jackal, at first, what groups were you made aware of that held someone of trust for you?

At first it was privates and engineers, for me.

[The Jackal]

I'm having a tough time deciding between saldana and BS, I'll reserve my vote a bit longer to see what discussion gets flushed out.

[claphamsa]

I wonder why he didn't announce it though, like all the others during the day.

I just sent mine in for today, and I'm sleeping tonight

dunno :(

[Danny]

I sent in my orders to work the beds today and tonight.

Before I work on getting my vote, I want to tell the spawn they better think twice before messing with an engineer again! We go kung fu on you.

[jeheinz72]

Hell yeah, gotta be handy with the steel, if you know what I mean. Earn ya keep.


ENGINEEEEEEEEERRRRRRSSSS!!!!!!



MOUNT UP.

[claphamsa]

I sent in my orders to work the beds today and tonight.

Before I work on getting my vote, I want to tell the spawn they better think twice before messing with an engineer again! We go kung fu on you.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Danny]

I'm having a tough time deciding between saldana and BS, I'll reserve my vote a bit longer to see what discussion gets flushed out.

I'm in the same boat right now, but am leaning towards Bullet. I could have sworn there was an exchange earlier in the day regarding Packer and Bullet about why both were exhausted. IIRC, Their little back and forth could have been playing off each other to make sure they both didn't get caught.

[KWhit]

I wonder why he didn't announce it though, like all the others during the day.

I just sent mine in for today, and I'm sleeping tonight

I think that clap and danny should work the beds by themselves today. Hopefully that gives us something from Danny's Spawn Awareness.

[KWhit]

At first it was privates and engineers, for me.

And what night was that?

[jeheinz72]

I think that clap and danny should work the beds by themselves today. Hopefully that gives us something from Danny's Spawn Awareness.

Danny said it's only a night ability though. So I might as well work today on beds since I can't do anything else.

[The Jackal]

And what night was that?

N1 I was attacked by a slave.

N2 I started to realize that not all the crew was bad.

N3 Started to trust engineers and privates.

[The Jackal]

Was clap still a private during N3?

[Danny]

Danny said it's only a night ability though. So I might as well work today on beds since I can't do anything else.

Yeah, it's only for night time, so we can all work the beds tonight. I think we should designate tonight who exactly we want to sleep. Let some cleared people roam the ship and make those least trusted sleep.

[Danny]

Yeah, it's only for night time, so we can all work the beds during the day. I think we should designate today who exactly we want to sleep. Let some cleared people roam the ship and make those least trusted sleep.

Fixed, I need to eat something before posting :)

[KWhit]

Danny said it's only a night ability though. So I might as well work today on beds since I can't do anything else.

Oh. I missed that. Clap, please make sure to work with Danny on fixing the beds tonight as well. I'm starting to trust you a little bit, but if you work some more with Danny that will help bring you closer to cleared status.

[jeheinz72]

Spawn Aware Has a chance of finding out that a player is a Spawn each cycle that the Spawn Aware player spends in the same location as a Spawn. This chance increases each cycle that the two players spend together.



*BK* - Are the rules as written above (copied from 1st page) correct or should it read each night instead of cycle?

[Danny]

Spawn Aware Has a chance of finding out that a player is a Spawn each cycle that the Spawn Aware player spends in the same location as a Spawn. This chance increases each cycle that the two players spend together.



*BK* - Are the rules as written above (copied from 1st page) correct or should it read each night instead of cycle?

Hmmm, I could have sworn earlier we asked and he said night only, but it would be even better if it was each cycle.

[KWhit]

Was clap still a private during N3?

No, he was an engineer by then.

[jeheinz72]

Hmmm, I could have sworn earlier we asked and he said night only, but it would be even better if it was each cycle.

That could be the case and I missed it. BUt I figure a clarification from BK tells us if he goofed or if there should be doubt cast upon you.

FTR, I don't necessarily doubt you, but if it turns out that the rules as written are correct, I'll be forced to consider it.

[PurdueBrad]

My timeline matches Jackal's. The one difference was that mine read medics and privates. The four people I would look at:

Saldana
Bulletsponge
Schmidty
Claphamsa

I feel pretty good about the rest of us.

[claphamsa]

I think that clap and danny should work the beds by themselves today. Hopefully that gives us something from Danny's Spawn Awareness.
It wont, but im willing ot do whatever :)

[KWhit]

N1 I was attacked by a slave.

N2 I started to realize that not all the crew was bad.

N3 Started to trust engineers and privates.


Clap and PurdueBrad were both engineers at the time you received that.

Hmmmm......

It appears that Chubby and Marc Vaughn were the only privates left at the time. But Marc was already an empath and you didn't get any message about Chubby being converted, so I'm confused.

[claphamsa]

Was clap still a private during N3?


nope

[Danny]

I could be wrong, but I feel it's likely that we only have one spawn left. It seemed like their strategy the last few days was to take out as many people as possible, and with the exausted/lack of Phasers for much of that I don't see them using more then 1 to attack each person.

[KWhit]

My timeline matches Jackal's. The one difference was that mine read medics and privates. The four people I would look at:

Saldana
Bulletsponge
Schmidty
Claphamsa

I feel pretty good about the rest of us.

So did you get any further clarification on the next night as far as what role group the trusted person was in?

[claphamsa]

Clap and PurdueBrad were both engineers at the time you received that.

Hmmmm......

It appears that Chubby and Marc Vaughn were the only privates left at the time. But Marc was already an empath and you didn't get any message about Chubby being converted, so I'm confused.
maybe he was converted before that....

[claphamsa]

less than 100 back.....

[Barkeep49]

Spawn effect works day or night.

[KWhit]

nope

And what group(s) were your trusted people listed in?

[KWhit]

maybe he was converted before that....

Yeah, but if he were converted, it wouldn't say that they TRUSTED him.

[jeheinz72]

Spawn effect works day or night.

That is....interesting.

Danny, any thoughts why you haven't gotten messages on us for all the times we've worked together in the day?

[Barkeep49]

Danny, clap, and heinz are all found working in the sleeping quarters.

[Danny]

Spawn effect works day or night.

Sweet, I should go back and see who I worked with during the day. Did PB or jeheinz put in there work order yet? If not then don't.

[claphamsa]

medical and engineering


And what group(s) were your trusted people listed in?

[jeheinz72]

I already did.

Shouldn't you have gotten the PM on the day work regardless? Or is it something you have to ask for?

[Danny]

That is....interesting.

Danny, any thoughts why you haven't gotten messages on us for all the times we've worked together in the day?

I'm assuming I only get a message if I find a spawn as I have not gotten anything info at all during the day. At night, I didn't get so an so was clean, but more an absence of info as well.

[Danny]

I already did.

Shouldn't you have gotten the PM on the day work regardless? Or is it something you have to ask for?

Apparently not. BK, I don't know if those goes beyond your ability to post, but can you confirm for them that the spawn aware person only gets a message if they find someone?

[KWhit]

Actually, I'm going to:

Unvote Bulletsponge

I'm re-reading some of his posts and I'm not sure yet......

[jeheinz72]

What do you see KWhit? I didn't see much. I ask because I'm splitting in about 10 minutes and won't be back until the morning

[Danny]

Oh and not that it means a whole lot based on what I've gotten so far, but I didn't get a message again about clap

[Barkeep49]

Apparently not. BK, I don't know if those goes beyond your ability to post, but can you confirm for them that the spawn aware person only gets a message if they find someone?
A Spawn Aware person will only get a PM if they hit upon a spawn.

[KWhit]

I unvoted Bulletsponge because I was reading the section of the thread where Chubby confronts MV about being an empath. After it came back that (evidently at the time) they both were empaths. bullet went after chubby fairly hard, which made me think maybe he wasn't a good candidate for today.

But it looks like it could have been an attempt to save Telle as she was the leading vote-getter that night. It looks like bullet was trying to draw attention away from Telle and put it somewhere else. And it's possible that he didn't even know that chubby was a spawn.

So I'll go back to my previous thought:

Vote bulletsponge

[bulletsponge]

ooohh i knew he was a spawn, i cant believe a mediocre player like myself was the only one to catch it. but everyone was on Telle already and once she was found to be a spawn everyone forgot about the Chubby clusterfuck.

i dont have a clue who the final spawn(s) are but i dont trust clamp so

Voye Claphamsa

if someone gives me a decent reason to change my vote to someone else ill switch. and if i hang tonight at least i will finally get a decent nights sleep, i havnt had a bunk yet this game :(

[Danny]

Vote Bulletsponge

I know we probably shouldn't use posts in other threads, but Olie's post in the die early thread seem to indicate we are probably on the right track to ending this thing.

[Danny]

Sorry Bullet, I had to vote for you three times!

Actually the board did something odd, so feel to delete the extra ones BK.

[claphamsa]

i see nothign wrong with extra BS votes :D

[The Jackal]

There a count?

[saldana]

unvote heinz
vote bullet

[Barkeep49]

Clap–bullet(4214)
Bullet – Heinz(4139), Purdue(4150), clap (4153), KWhit(4213), danny(4215), saldana(4219)

[bulletsponge]

*sigh*

wait, i didnt vote for Heinz, i vote for Clap

well im use to dying in WW games, unfortunatly im not the spawn so yall will still have to find him tomorow

[PurdueBrad]

So did you get any further clarification on the next night as far as what role group the trusted person was in?

No, no other clues. They were very vague for me.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm out until after softball. I think we've got another spawn here in Bulletsponge in that he has not argued much against a lynch. From there, I'll be looking at the remainder of my distrusted list.

That being said, I am NOT putting in a work order tonight. I will allow Danny and Claph to work together on the beds and hopefully get a better read either way.

[Schmidty]

Also, do folks want me to work on the beds tonight or should I sleep? Let me know I'll put in my order for tonight now.

Reading through, and I'm wondering the same thing about me. Cargo and water are ok for now. Is there a reason for me to sleep, or should I just stay exhausted and guard?

[Schmidty]

Okay guys. We need to punt with our gut feel approach. I just asked BK a few questions about it and the response from him was essentially that the Gut Feel ability wouldn't work planned out like this. The votes had to be "real" to take effect.

So umm.... That great idea I had about how find out more about Saldana, Bullet, or Clap? Never mind. Vote for whomever you want.

Still catching up...


My gut vote? Seriously?

Vote Danny

[Schmidty]

Here's my trust list, from most Distrusted at the top to the most Trusted at the bottom.

Bulletsponge
Saldana
Claphamsa
Schmidty
jeheinz
The Jackal
PurdueBrad
Danny
KWhit

Why do you trust Danny so much?

Actually, someone asked me earlier why I should be trusted, so maybe I should ask this - EVERYONE GIVE A REASON OR REASONS WHY THEY SHOULD BE TRUSTED.

[Schmidty]

Well, no one's here, so I'm going to leave my vote for now. I'm also going to do some housework, but I'll check in every so often.

[claphamsa]

I should be trusted becsue im not a spawn.

[claphamsa]

i should also be trusted xuz i love cheese.

[Schmidty]

Yep. That's pretty much my platform too, clap. Except i love midgets.

[KWhit]

Why do you trust Danny so much?



Well, Danny was cleared by Pass, but it's possible that he is the unaware spawn, so maybe I shouldn't have him that high on my list, but right now I do trust him.

[KWhit]

Anybody have a vote count?

[Barkeep49]

See 4220 and add a vote to danny from schmidty

[Danny]

Regarding me being the unaware spawn, at this point not a single spawn has shown up as being evolved to any special role. It's unlikely to think I somehow would have evolved faster and become unaware spawn before I was scanned.

Also, I was attacked last night. I guess it's possible I was fake attacked by a fellow spawn, but that's also a stretch at this point.

[The Jackal]

Not that it will matter much at this point, but -

vote BS

[claphamsa]

all this thread is lackign is ketchup porn!

[claphamsa]

we have lost sooo much momentum!

but hopefully the game will be over at 10 :)

[hoopsguy]

we have lost sooo much momentum!

but hopefully the game will be over at 10 :)

Yeah, I have to believe that even if it ends tonight that there will be enough post-game chatter to push this game past Apocalypse (I) in the all-time post count race.

Oh well, it was a good run. Congrats in advance to Barkeep for putting together, and running, this leviathan of a game.

[Schmidty]

See 4220 and add a vote to danny from schmidty

I think that I unvoted him after that, but I'll redo it. Gut, gut, gut:

Vote Danny

[Barkeep49]

Yeah, I have to believe that even if it ends tonight that there will be enough post-game chatter to push this game past Apocalypse (I) in the all-time post count race.

Oh well, it was a good run. Congrats in advance to Barkeep for putting together, and running, this leviathan of a game.
I'll enjoy the crown for the 3 or so months it'll take for you to reclaim the crown.

[KWhit]

I think that I unvoted him after that, but I'll redo it. Gut, gut, gut:

Vote Danny

Why do you suspect him?

[hoopsguy]

I'll enjoy the crown for the 3 or so months it'll take for you to reclaim the crown.

Maybe - so much of that comes down to the players and the in-thread dynamics that develop. The mod really doesn't have all that much control over how often people feel compelled to post. Great rulesets don't always translate into furious in-thread action.

I think you should be happy that you ran the game very well - from where I sat, anyway - and that people seemed to enjoy it as much as they did. I think that was equally true for Spawn vets and first-timers.

OK, I'm done saying nice things to you. Check your PMs :)

[Passacaglia]

Sorry about the early scan -- I was out all day today, and wanted to get it in first thing. I had no idea PF would claim that attack! Bring it home, village!

[Schmidty]

Why do you suspect him?

He's just seemed to flow through the game. Never really any heat, never really pushed too hard for or against anything. He's put up a lot of posts for thought, and such, but I just don't see anything that would put his neck out there.

It's funny that I'm pointing at him for that, since I've done the same thing, without even adding nearly as much to the game as him. But oh well.

It's just a gut feeling. And no, I'm not hinting at any ability.

[Danny]

He's just seemed to flow through the game. Never really any heat, never really pushed too hard for or against anything. He's put up a lot of posts for thought, and such, but I just don't see anything that would put his neck out there.

It's funny that I'm pointing at him for that, since I've done the same thing, without even adding nearly as much to the game as him. But oh well.

It's just a gut feeling. And no, I'm not hinting at any ability.

We all have our gut feelings, I can't blame you for that. Let's just go through the couple people who are completely uncleared as I have a feeling the game will be over before we will need to worry about who to look at from the more cleared list.

[claphamsa]

i have no gut feelings!

I think saldanas bad, but i seem to think hes bad every game we play together.... so cest la vie!

[claphamsa]

oh yeah, danny we hittin the beds tonight? u and me big sexy man u!

[PurdueBrad]

MAN, another bad night of softball, hoping for better results here!

[Danny]

oh yeah, danny we hittin the beds tonight? u and me big sexy man u!

Just make sure to wear the french maid's outfit I dropped off in the cargo hold earlier today

[PurdueBrad]

I am *tempted* to re-read this entire thread with an eye on the remaining players although we'll see how much time I want to commit to that process.

[Barkeep49]

Another day another spawn. It’s all so routine by now. So imagine the surprise and disappointment when no one can find the spawn creature in bulletsponge’s remains. It seems that poor departed bullet was a .SURVIVOR!.

Room Reports
Engine Room – Operational (Undamaged)
Water Plant – Operational (Undamaged)
Cargo Hold - Operational (Undamaged) (Maximum Capacity: 125 units)
Water Supply – 23 units (Enough reserves for more than 2 days at this rate of consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 95 units (at least 75 required)
Security Headquarters Operational (Undamaged)
Brig -
Weapons Locker – 3 unspent phasers (2=3 spent)
Slave Pens – Operational (Undamaged)
Sleeping Quarters – Damaged. 15 berths requiring repair (enough berths for 8 people to sleep)

The Crew

Command Staff
Captain – Kwhit Exhausted

Engineers
PurdueBrad Exhuasted
Danny Exhuasted
JeHeinz72 Exhuasted
Claphamsa Exhuasted


Medical Staff
Doctor - Passacagalia Exhausted
Medic - The Jackal Exhausted

Security Staff
Galley Master - Schmidty Exhausted
Slavemaster – Saldana Exhausted

Scientists

PackerFanatic Exhausted Wounded

Deceased
Telle - Spawn
mccollins – Survivor
Lonestargirl – Spawn
Marc Vaughn – Survivor
path12 - Survivor
RendeR - Survivor
Chubby - Spawn
Tyrith - Survivor
hoops - Survivor
Mrs. Schmidty - Survivor
oliegirl - Spawn Queen
AlanT - Survivor
bulletsponge - Survivor

[Danny]

Ugg

[Danny]

Ok, our beds have enough for 8 people to sleep, everyone in the game should be able to sleep tonight.

[PurdueBrad]

Well that sucked. I really thought, given how quietly he accepted the lynch, that he had to be spawn. Guh! Alright Danny, hoping you come up big with Claph tonight.

[claphamsa]

Just make sure to wear the french maid's outfit I dropped off in the cargo hold earlier today
'
bah! pb needs to make a song about freeee freeballin!

[claphamsa]

booo!

[PurdueBrad]

'
bah! pb needs to make a song about freeee freeballin!

:lol:

[claphamsa]

BK.,...
PF is dead

KTHXBAI

[claphamsa]

24 back... i expect this to be the #1 all time thread by the time i get to work!

[hoopsguy]

BK.,...
PF is dead

KTHXBAI

Ditto Pass.

[KWhit]

Hmmm.... Well, that sucks.

[KWhit]

Note to spawn. I have a phaser and I'm not afraid to use it.

[Schmidty]

Well, I'll be voting Danny again.

[Schmidty]

Note to spawn. I have a phaser and I'm not afraid to use it.

You also have a vote.

I am HONESTLY saying this - I have a pure gut feeling thatDanny is a Spawn. His play-style indicates it. I might be wrong. There's a good chance. BUT, I will vote for him unless I see OVERWHELMING evidence.

[bulletsponge]

Bulletsponge's undead corpse is seen roaming the passageways moaning "Brains" repetedly

[RendeR]

Bulletsponge's undead corpse is seen roaming the passageways moaning "Brains" repetedly


Hey look! Its BulletKeep94!!

[claphamsa]

wait.. is rtender still alive?

[claphamsa]

oh ok, no :)

[claphamsa]

You also have a vote.

I am HONESTLY saying this - I have a pure gut feeling thatDanny is a Spawn. His play-style indicates it. I might be wrong. There's a good chance. BUT, I will vote for him unless I see OVERWHELMING evidence.

i can honeslty say i am coniveed you danny and saldana are all spawn :( so........... i hsoudla gone to bed an hour ago :)

[bulletsponge]

Zombiesponge walks by Render and takes a sniff of his noggin. he goes on his way realizing there isnt enough there to make a light snake much less a meal

[mccollins]

:: tosses Zombiesponge a heavy snake for a meal ::

[claphamsa]

a heavey snake? these dead people are confusing!

[mccollins]

a heavey snake? these dead people are confusing!

I know you don't have time for spelling, but ...
a light snake
a heavy snake

;)

Sorry for the dead dry humor :banghead:

[claphamsa]

oh i get it. ha ha ha!

[claphamsa]

can we lycn h mcclins again?

[claphamsa]

FYI i cant sleep. so if i go all schmity toommorw thats why :)

[Schmidty]

Like I said - I ALWAYS make it to the End Game. I am the Miss Cleo of WW.

http://rss.weht.net/pics/miss_cleo_big.jpg


All of that hardwork and anger by guys like Alan and.......Render and Alan, and it's all down to a 1-800-WWGUESS. :D

[The Jackal]

Ah, crap. Well, I guess back to my other suspect which was saldana.

[Schmidty]

All of that hardwork and anger by guys like Alan and.......Render and Alan, and it's all down to a 1-800-WWGUESS. :D

By that I mean anger.

And I also mean it as a joke. So no PMs please. I love everyone. I am awkward and a poophead, but I like everyone. I would bake you all cupcakes and then yell at you while smiling and burning you in effigy and reading your scrapbooks.

I am tired.

[Danny]

You also have a vote.

I am HONESTLY saying this - I have a pure gut feeling thatDanny is a Spawn. His play-style indicates it. I might be wrong. There's a good chance. BUT, I will vote for him unless I see OVERWHELMING evidence.

That's how I play, good or bad. I ido understand gut feelngs but to say there is a good chance is wrong. The chances of me being spawn are actually highly unlikely looking at things objectively. I can only be the unaware spawn. And to date there hasn't been a single roled spawn, so that means I would have to develop faster than the others and even if that is the case, there is still only a 1 in 6 chance I would have developed into the unaware spawn.

[Danny]

Clap and I are working on the beds tonight. Kwhit can do whatever he wants since he for sure good.

Saldana, Jeheinz, Purduebrad, Jackal, and Schmidty should be sleeping and wake up rested tomorrow.

[Danny]

By that I mean anger.

And I also mean it as a joke. So no PMs please. I love everyone. I am awkward and a poophead, but I like everyone. I would bake you all cupcakes and then yell at you while smiling and burning you in effigy and reading your scrapbooks.

I am tired.

Awww :)

I just don't understand why we wouldn't vote Saldana tomorrow if Clap comes up alright and no new information is available. Everyone else is cleared to some degree, so if you want to come after me once we have cleared/caught Saldana/Clap it's more understandable.

[Danny]

Oh and here's the post to give us the record for most posts in a werewolf thread in the history of the forums!!!!


YAY!!!!

:banana: :banana:

[claphamsa]

danny waht the hell do you do? you keep posting at 3am!

[claphamsa]

Oh and here's the post to give us the record for most posts in a werewolf thread in the history of the forums!!!!


YAY!!!!

:banana: :banana:
wait.... we have dancing bananas here?:jawdrop:

[jeheinz72]

Aw crap. I really which innocent villagers would fight for themselves more when they're on the block. No resistance almost assures the bad lynch.

[Barkeep49]

You feel the end is near. You’ve felt the end is near for a little while now, but more so today. Perhaps it’s the sleep most people got. Except for Danny & clap who were working on the beds. And you suppose that jackal didn’t really sleep too well considering he died. But otherwise it was a peaceful night and perhaps today will be the last day with the threat of Spawn.


Room Reports
Engine Room – Operational (Undamaged)
Water Plant – Operational (Undamaged)
Cargo Hold - Operational (Undamaged) (Maximum Capacity: 125 units)
Water Supply – 23 units (Enough reserves for more than 2 days at this rate of consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 95 units (at least 75 required)
Security Headquarters Operational (Undamaged)
Brig -
Weapons Locker – 3 unspent phasers (2=3 spent)
Slave Pens – Operational (Undamaged)
Sleeping Quarters – Damaged. 13 berths requiring repair (enough berths for 10 people to sleep)

The Crew

Command Staff
Captain – Kwhit

Engineers
PurdueBrad
Danny
JeHeinz72
Claphamsa


Security Staff
Galley Master - Schmidty
Slavemaster – Saldana

Deceased
Telle - Spawn
mccollins – Survivor
Lonestargirl – Spawn
Marc Vaughn – Survivor
path12 - Survivor
RendeR - Survivor
Chubby - Spawn
Tyrith - Survivor
hoops - Survivor
Mrs. Schmidty - Survivor
oliegirl - Spawn Queen
AlanT - Survivor
Passacagalia - Survivor
PackerFanatic - Spawn
bulletsponge - Survivor
the jackal - Survivor

[claphamsa]

no one was killed?

[claphamsa]

oh wait. jackyl looks to be dead.....

[jeheinz72]

Argh.

Why are Schmidty and Saldana Exhausted?

[KWhit]

And then there were 7.

[KWhit]

Argh.

Why are Schmidty and Saldana Exhausted?

Good question.

[claphamsa]

killing jackyl ws hard work?

[claphamsa]

vote saldana!

lets get this lynchign sytarted.

[jeheinz72]

So we're still looking at 1 starting spawn likely left. Possibly 1 more conversion-type, but are we still operating under the assumption that there is a starting one left?

[KWhit]

So we're still looking at 1 starting spawn likely left. Possibly 1 more conversion-type, but are we still operating under the assumption that there is a starting one left?

I am. Yes.

[claphamsa]

I dont hink it matters if he was a starter or not. FWIW YMMV

[KWhit]

Well, I'm assuming we still ahve the unaware spawn out there somewhere. That could be important to keep in mind.

[Schmidty]

Argh.

Why are Schmidty and Saldana Exhausted?

Because I guarded the water supply. I sent a pm to BK saying that if I was able to sleep, do that, and if not, guard the water.

[KWhit]

Schmidty, what did you do last night?

[KWhit]

Schmidty, what did you do last night?

Never mind.

[KWhit]

Because I guarded the water supply. I sent a pm to BK saying that if I was able to sleep, do that, and if not, guard the water.

Wait. What did you guard last night?

[Schmidty]

Wait. What did you guard last night?

The Water Plant, just like I said. That's all I can do, other than guard the cargo.

[jeheinz72]

I dont hink it matters if he was a starter or not. FWIW YMMV

Well, personally I do think it matters. I think it much more unlikely that saldana was a starting spawn than a conversion.

[KWhit]

Didn't know if you meant the water plant or the cargo hold when you said guard the water.

[jeheinz72]

So many questions prattling around me head.
First off, I'm not considering KWhit an alternative...yet. Again, if he's bad and considering they have to wipe us all out, that can wait.

With Jackal proven as good, I'm inclined to believe in the trust between he and PB.

Questions

- Why is saldana tired?
- Why are Danny and Clap not tired? (is that a mistake BK?) They should've worked on the beds.
- What was Danny's possible "read" on clap?
- Could saldana have been a starting spawn? If so, why would he perform so well in the missions knowing he'd get heat eventually just for being off the ship so often?
- How many people are going to (justifiably) look my way today?
- If Danny is unaware spawn, the only possibility, then did we just not get a Spawn Aware? If Spawn Aware is a triggered function, my guess is it'd be triggered by being near Spawn once. I'd be the only person left who could be that and I've been near Danny like 7 times
- Why hasn't Danny been getting reads on his daytime work, as BK said he should have been getting?
- Why would the Spawn kill Jackal? (ergo proving him as good, ergo proving PB as likely not lying about the AT and to an extent clap)
- Why not take out Danny who, if good, has some ability to detect spawn, the last such person to be able to do so?
- Could Schmidty be both starting spawn and duplicant? Could he have faked being a duplicant some how, faked clearing RendeR?

Oy vey.

[jeheinz72]

So Schmidty, you're actually not allowed to sleep? Am I reading it right that it was your preference to do so but you weren't allowed to?

[jeheinz72]

Danny, Saldana, Schmidty, Claphamsa, (me)

That's the list of people who it's plausible to vote for today. KWhit and PB I think are barking up the longshot tree far enough that they aren't worth the energy at this time.

Danny - Could have been starting spawn as he has an unverifiable and unproductive ability thus far. Was scanned by Pass, but could be Unaware. Would be a big whiff if we'd be wrong on that one.

Saldana - Seemingly unlikely to be starting spawn, but 45%+ chance he was converted at some point

Schmidty - Unlikely as starting spawn due to duplicant action of clearing RendeR. Would've been a solid conversion attempt after doing so

Claphamsa - Supposed AT member. Has done his work, but wasn't in much of a position to fake (none of us were). Would he really have been so overt about going after me if he was starting spawn? Plus, if he's bad, wouldn't he have screwed up by now? :)

Me - I'll be honest, I'm not all that cleared if you don't believe Danny. If you do believe Danny though, you should pretty much be sure I'm good having worked with him in close quarters 4-5 times.

[Barkeep49]

Schmidty and saldana are not exhausted. I simply forgot to remove the tags for the security staff. I've also added in the write-up. I woke up exceedingly early today for some reason and so I actually just took a nap after posting the results.

[jeheinz72]

Should clap and Danny be exhausted?

[claphamsa]

Danny, Saldana, Schmidty, Claphamsa, (me)

That's the list of people who it's plausible to vote for today. KWhit and PB I think are barking up the longshot tree far enough that they aren't worth the energy at this time.

Danny - Could have been starting spawn as he has an unverifiable and unproductive ability thus far. Was scanned by Pass, but could be Unaware. Would be a big whiff if we'd be wrong on that one.

Saldana - Seemingly unlikely to be starting spawn, but 45%+ chance he was converted at some point

Schmidty - Unlikely as starting spawn due to duplicant action of clearing RendeR. Would've been a solid conversion attempt after doing so

Claphamsa - Supposed AT member. Has done his work, but wasn't in much of a position to fake (none of us were). Would he really have been so overt about going after me if he was starting spawn? Plus, if he's bad, wouldn't he have screwed up by now? :)

Me - I'll be honest, I'm not all that cleared if you don't believe Danny. If you do believe Danny though, you should pretty much be sure I'm good having worked with him in close quarters 4-5 times.

jerk!

[claphamsa]

Should clap and Danny be exhausted?


that would follow as logical!

[jeheinz72]

Schmidty and saldana are not exhausted. I simply forgot to remove the tags for the security staff. I've also added in the write-up. I woke up exceedingly early today for some reason and so I actually just took a nap after posting the results.

BK - Exhausted.

[Danny]

Clap and I worked on the beds. I didn't get a spawn report back, however my PM specifically said I enjoyed working with clap and that other enjoyed their sleep. I think it considered us all in the same location and thus I doubt my read on Clap was worth anything.

[jeheinz72]

Argh.

[claphamsa]

well
im not a spawn :)

so youll not get anythign!

[claphamsa]

Pass, you stiill counting :)

[Danny]

Vote Saldana

He has the highest % chance of being a spawn out of anyone and is 100% uncleared.

[jeheinz72]

Danny - Do you have the post number of when you revealed as Spawn Aware?

[Danny]

Oh and Clap, I am on the west coast, so I was posting at midnight not at 3am :).

[Danny]

Danny - Do you have the post number of when you revealed as Spawn Aware?

I can find it real quick I'm sure.

[claphamsa]

ic ic, you dont have a location listed :P

[Schmidty]

So Schmidty, you're actually not allowed to sleep? Am I reading it right that it was your preference to do so but you weren't allowed to?

Apparantly so. I requested to as my first preference, but it still says I'm exhausted, and I didn't even get a PM today from BK.

[Danny]

I was unsure if I was going to mention this as I didn't want to give anything away to potential Spawn, but at this point it is probably unspecific enough to be alright.

In my PM last night it said that I could feel the spawn. I don't know if this means I could have a spawnling or I will be gaining a special ability or perhaps it had something to do with working next to Jeheinz.

Post #1237

[Schmidty]

Schmidty and saldana are not exhausted. I simply forgot to remove the tags for the security staff. I've also added in the write-up. I woke up exceedingly early today for some reason and so I actually just took a nap after posting the results.

Oops. Ok. Disregard my last post.

[PurdueBrad]

Jackal was a surprise. I'm getting to the point where I'm willing to go into my COT to look for a candidate. Jackal is an odd kill. KWhit, I'm not accusing you here, but why not kill KWhit if you're the wolves? Seems like an odd move. I'll start here but we'll see what happens:

vote Saldana

[Danny]

I need to go to work, I suspect there might be some heat on me today which is fine, but understand I will be out at work until around 4pm eastern, so I would be weary of anyone pushing hard for me while I am not even around.

When I get back I will be happy to address any accusations.

[jeheinz72]

3 quick votes on Sal has me worried.

[jeheinz72]

I need to go to work, I suspect there might be some heat on me today which is fine, but understand I will be out at work until around 4pm eastern, so I would be weary of anyone pushing hard for me while I am not even around.

When I get back I will be happy to address any accusations.

Just an FYI, I'm not sure I'm going to push for your lynch or not, but I leave today at about 3:30 EST, so if I do, that's the reason, not that you were gone.

[PurdueBrad]

3 quick votes on Sal has me worried.

Actually, me too. I didn't even catch those before voting, especially since the other two voters are on my short list as well.

unvote Saldana

[jeheinz72]

Post #1237

Yeah, sure looks like you did. That's dang early Day Two. Before it was insinuated that we'd have doubles of a few powers. Plus, I had heat on me from hoops a bit so the benefit of vouching for me perse wasn't much.

I'm pretty confident that you at least didn't start as Spawn. And since I know you didn't go off the ship I think I'll back off...for today.

[Danny]

Just an FYI, I'm not sure I'm going to push for your lynch or not, but I leave today at about 3:30 EST, so if I do, that's the reason, not that you were gone.

That's fine. I guess the choice right now seems easier to me than others. There is nothing concrete about anyone right now. Saldana is the only player never to be cleared at all and also is has by far the highest % chance of being a spawn. I see nothing wrong with taking a stab at someone from the more cleared list once he is gone.

[jeheinz72]

Vote claphamsa

I still am thinking we had to have more than 1 starting spawn. I think based on gameplay that it's unlikely that Danny, Sal or Schmidty started as spawn. I know I didn't. I'm pretty confident today in the clearings of KWhit and PB.

That leaves clap.

[jeheinz72]

That's fine. I guess the choice right now seems easier to me than others. There is nothing concrete about anyone right now. Saldana is the only player never to be cleared at all and also is has by far the highest % chance of being a spawn. I see nothing wrong with taking a stab at someone from the more cleared list once he is gone.

But do you really think he started as spawn given his mission success?

I'm up in the air as far as clap vs sal, but I think if I'm going off of the assumption that we have a player out there who started as spawn, clap is the only one that makes sense.

[claphamsa]

Actually, me too. I didn't even catch those before voting, especially since the other two voters are on my short list as well.

unvote Saldana

considering there are only 7 left... i hope you list isnt too long :)

[Schmidty]

No offense to Danny, but I'm sticking to my gut.

Vote Danny

[The Jackal]

Kick some spawn ass.

[saldana]

working from the fact that i know i am a villager, the jackal kill makes sense to me...he had announced that he would be coming after me today, so him dying, in my perspective, was done to try and frame me up in a "Saldana must be a spawn, and he killed jackal so he couldnt come after him" type of move

i cant argue with the fact that I went off the ship 3 times, but i will point out that i personally am responsible for almost 2/3 of the Crystillium in our hold

i will also point out that I have been exactly where i have said i was going to be every single night of this mission

i also cant argue the point that i have not been scanned/cleared by anyone, except for Chubby, who wasnt really an empath....but to that, I have two points:

[saldana]

dola, my two points being

1. it is not for lack of trying that i have not been scanned....i was due to be scanned the day that we lost path and marc....i gave the most clear, concise, and unarguable phrase possible for an empath to scan, well before Chubby had been caught in his lies....i voted for Heinz 2 days in a row to try to get myself read by his gut feeling....basically, i have done everything possible to get myself scanned, as recently as yesterday

2. chubby the spawn did say my statement was true....of course, he didnt really scan it, but he was trying to win a spot in the COT at the time he "cleared" me...at that point, there had already been quite a bit of talk about lynching me....assuming chubby was on the council and knew i am a villager, he had to actually give me a clear in case i was lynched...he would have been stupid to give a false clear to another spawn that might get lynched any day because as soon as I came up spawn, everyone would know he lied.

thats all i got

vote claphamsa

[jeheinz72]

I'm twisting in the wind here.

On one hand, I agree with a lot of what saldana has said, and I think it unlikely that he started as spawn

On the other hand, I'm less than confident in my vote on clap. I mean he's worked with danny 3 times now, 2nd only to me, so if I'm giving up the front on Danny, in a way, I have to give it up on clap.

[KWhit]

Work's very busy today, so I haven't had a lot of time for analysis. I hope to be able to do some in later in the day, but we'll see.

[PurdueBrad]

Talking about secret roles, let's go over this one more time for me:

Myself- Absolute trust with Jackal and someone
KWhit- Absolute trust with Alan T.
Danny- Spawn-Aware
Claphamsa- Claims absolute trust
JEHeinz- Claims light sleeper IIRC
Saldana-
Schmidty- emphatic

Sorry Saldana, I'm sure you've said several times, I just can't remember.

IF we're looking for an original spawn, than it cannot be the following: Me, Danny (no counter-reveal buys him some cred. here), KWhit or Schmidty. That leaves Saldana (pending his secret role), Claph (whether or not we believe him), and JEHeinz.

[jeheinz72]

PB, saldana claimed light sleeper.

I either don't have a secret role, or it just hasn't been triggered (like Gut Feeling)

[jeheinz72]

So we don't know who clap had an AT with? And you know for sure you have a 3rd member of the trust PB but you don't know who it is?

[jeheinz72]

I ask because it seemed that the AT came in pairs, Alan/KWhit, Jackal/PB

[claphamsa]

the pm is pretty clear that it is not pairs

[claphamsa]

and those pairs you list are just specualtion

[jeheinz72]

and those pairs you list are just specualtion

Well, one half of each has died and confirmed good. So I'm inclined to believe that they were indeed in an AT with the people they listed. Whether or not it was more than 2 people, I just don't know.

[PurdueBrad]

So we don't know who clap had an AT with? And you know for sure you have a 3rd member of the trust PB but you don't know who it is?

From my PM I am very sure that there was a third person from my AT.

[jeheinz72]

And are you sure that 3rd person is alive?

[PurdueBrad]

Talking about secret roles, let's go over this one more time for me:

Myself- Absolute trust with Jackal and someone
KWhit- Absolute trust with Alan T.
Danny- Spawn-Aware
Claphamsa- Claims absolute trust
JEHeinz- uncertain, possibly gut instinct
Saldana- Claims light sleeper
Schmidty- emphatic



Corrected.

Alright, I'm going to take a chance here:

vote Claphamsa

[PurdueBrad]

And are you sure that 3rd person is alive?

No, not at all. I have received no notification about anyone's status, even Jackal's. From what I garnered via the rules and BK, I only have a chance of being notified if the person becomes Spawn/spawnling.

[jeheinz72]

That assuages the fear a bit.

Do you think clap is/was that 3rd person in the trust, at some point? Or do you think that was MV?

[claphamsa]

Im not sure either of them is alive... I am however sure that they did not get converted :)

[PurdueBrad]

That assuages the fear a bit.

Do you think clap is/was that 3rd person in the trust, at some point? Or do you think that was MV?

I think MV was it but I'm not 100%. I don't really have any other reason than to say that MV was still a private when I got my notification and Claph was not.

[KWhit]

I think MV was it but I'm not 100%. I don't really have any other reason than to say that MV was still a private when I got my notification and Claph was not.

I am also confused by this.

Clap was not a private at the time, but I'm assuming it couldn't be MV because he was an empath (and BK says you can't have 2 secret roles).

[Danny]

Hmmm, I will say this again at least referring to last night. BK made sure to mention the people sleeping around me while working last night. I'm assuming this means that my scan was not just for Clap, but split amongst him and everyone sleeping in that location as well. Still I did work with Clap alone once and once with him during the day.

[Danny]

I'm curious about something, if Clap was an engineer at the time the At emails were out, then it's possible that in Jackal's info about being with a private and an engineer that the engineer could have been Claphamsa and not PurdueBrad. I'm not accusing him of anything at this point, but if Clap comes up clean then I think it's a possibility.

[claphamsa]

who didnt sleep?

[Danny]

Also, I think from here on out, every player should be sleeping every night except for Kwhit who can do whatever he wants.

[claphamsa]

schmitdy wasnt asleep.................................

[claphamsa]

we got any kinda vote count?

[Danny]

who didnt sleep?

Just you and I. There's still a good chance the spawn can make a kill without becoming exausted, but there is a chance he could be caught from that.

[Danny]

schmitdy wasnt asleep.................................

He was, BK made a mistake. I personally have Schmidty pretty high up on my trust list even though he is determined to vote for me.

[claphamsa]

Just you and I. There's still a good chance the spawn can make a kill without becoming exausted, but there is a chance he could be caught from that.
oh yeah :)

[Danny]

Kwit, your messages about AT did it specifically say what groups you had an AT with? If so, which ones? Also, do you know if there was a 3rd person involved?

[KWhit]

It was very clear that ONE person on the command staff was part of the AT. And that was all.

It appears that AlanT and I were part of a 2 person AT and the other guys had a 3 person AT.

[claphamsa]

tthats possible....

[KWhit]

I think we need to go with a percentage play today.

Vote Saldana

He could be a starting spawn or have been infected off-ship, but either way, he hasn't been cleared at all and he is statistically the most likely spawn of anyone in the whole game - dead or alive.

[Danny]

It was very clear that ONE person on the command staff was part of the AT. And that was all.

It appears that AlanT and I were part of a 2 person AT and the other guys had a 3 person AT.

Did we confirm who was what job when they got those PM's about the AT trust thing?

If both PB and Clap was an engineer then I think it's likely one of then would be a spawn unless BK was going off everyone's original role.

At this point I feel like my list of suspects is Saldana, Clap and then PB only if Clap was clean.

BK, if you can answer, the PM's about who was in your AT, was that based on starting roles are roles the players had at the time of the message?

[PurdueBrad]

I hadn't considered the no dual role comment. You're right, Vaughn couldn't have been it. Claphamsa, then I'm guessing here that you have the be the private it was referring to.

My order has changed now to Saldana, Schmidty, and then Heinz (that is in order btw).

unvote Claphamsa

vote Saldana

[PurdueBrad]

Also, one word of warning, if we still have a spawn after this lynch, I would expect them to kill Claphamsa (assuming he's good) to cast the doubt on me. That may sound like paranoid talk but it is what it is. The one thing I would point out in my defense is that my PMs matched Jackals and mine were revealed well before his. But at this point, I understand all suspicion.

[Barkeep49]

Did we confirm who was what job when they got those PM's about the AT trust thing?

If both PB and Clap was an engineer then I think it's likely one of then would be a spawn unless BK was going off everyone's original role.

At this point I feel like my list of suspects is Saldana, Clap and then PB only if Clap was clean.

BK, if you can answer, the PM's about who was in your AT, was that based on starting roles are roles the players had at the time of the message?
If people have questions about PMs I'm happy to discuss that with them privately. However, I won't discuss PMs here which might or might not exist. Players are, after all, allowed to lie.

[Danny]

I hadn't considered the no dual role comment. You're right, Vaughn couldn't have been it. Claphamsa, then I'm guessing here that you have the be the private it was referring to.

My order has changed now to Saldana, Schmidty, and then Heinz (that is in order btw).

unvote Claphamsa

vote Saldana

Purdue, can you PM Barkeep the question I asked him and tell us what he replied with?

[Danny]

Unless some more proof for anyone is revealed, I am sticking with my Saldana vote for today. It sucks Saldana, but I have to go with the percentages unless there is some really solid evidence for someone.

[Danny]

PB, also just to be clear again, can you recap how it lead into being AT, each day what was the info you got?

[PurdueBrad]

Yeah, give me a sec and I'll also send BK a PM and post answer when received.

[PurdueBrad]

PM times/info:

7/9- unusual feelings about the crew. Not sure what they mean but feel they are good
7/10- Previous day's feelings intensify. They are about Privates and Med. Staff
7/11- Absolute trust in all bold

Nothing since. PMing BK now.

[Danny]

So Night 2 is when it was reported what jobs each person had. I'm going to go check and see who was where at that point.

[Danny]

Night 2 Clap was an engineer, Jackal a medic and you an engineer as well. Assuming your PM comes back with the response I think it will, it's reasonable that the AT was you. Jackyl and Clap since the only two remaining privates at the time of night two both could not have been AT.

[Danny]

List of Day 1 starting privates

Privates

Claphamsa
Marc Vaughn (empath)
Chubby (spawn)
bulletsponge (didn't know his role, was not AT)

From this list, Clap is the only one who could have been AT. Like I said, assuming PB's private message comes back the way I think it will, I'm starting to feel really good about PB and Clap.

[Danny]

From the rules

Absolute Trust- If anyone in an Absolute Trust group has left the group (by becoming Spawnling or Spawn), the other group members will be informed of it.


There is no if's ands or buts about it, if someone was converted from AT the others would know, this further rules out Chubby as any possibility. The AT has to be Jackyl, PB and Clap.

[PurdueBrad]

I got BK's response and basically it says that the PMs would let me know but they are night actions whereas his posts reflect day actions.

[Danny]

My trust list now is

Kwhit
PurdueBrad
Clap
jeheinz
Schmidty
Saldana

I know Clap is a popular choice, but I would advice not lynching him as if you believe PurdueBrad to be good, Clap HAS TO BE GOOD.

[Danny]

I got BK's response and basically it says that the PMs would let me know but they are night actions whereas his posts reflect day actions.

Hmm? This doesn't make it as clear as I was hoping

[Schmidty]

I think we need to go with a percentage play today.

Vote Saldana

He could be a starting spawn or have been infected off-ship, but either way, he hasn't been cleared at all and he is statistically the most likely spawn of anyone in the whole game - dead or alive.

I trust you. I hope this isn't wrong.

Unvote Danny

Vote saldana

[Schmidty]

Dola.

If saldana isn't a Spawn, please at least listen to my gut feeling about Danny. I know I don't have anything other than a slight chance that he could be bad, but......I just can't shake this feeling.

[Danny]

Dola.

If saldana isn't a Spawn, please at least listen to my gut feeling about Danny. I know I don't have anything other than a slight chance that he could be bad, but......I just can't shake this feeling.

I'm starting to feel really good about our choice today, but in the event Saldanya isn't bad, tomorrow will likel be you vs me although I have the opposite gut feeling about you, I get the feeling you are good.

[claphamsa]

My trust list now is

Kwhit
PurdueBrad
Clap
jeheinz
Schmidty
Saldana

I know Clap is a popular choice, but I would advice not lynching him as if you believe PurdueBrad to be good, Clap HAS TO BE GOOD.

im popular!!!!

[Danny]

Yeah and it pains me to defend you :jawdrop: