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Tyrith
07-09-2008, 09:15 AM
*wipes brow* We're not as screwed as it seemed like. Engineers need to work on the slave pens ASAP. Then everyone who can spare the AP needs to go slave herding. Then we'll deal with the other stuff -- the water next, probably.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 09:16 AM
Hey, look, it's a mod edit!
Oh good.. because I was about to come after you to ask why that wasn't fixed after last night :)
Alan T
07-09-2008, 09:17 AM
*wipes brow* We're not as screwed as it seemed like. Engineers need to work on the slave pens ASAP. Then everyone who can spare the AP needs to go slave herding. Then we'll deal with the other stuff -- the water next, probably.
Agreed.. engineers need to get the slave pens fixed asap today so we can then see if we have time for anything else after rounding up the slaves.
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 09:18 AM
Alright, I'm off to go sling some wrenches again.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 09:19 AM
Barkeep :
The slave herding action is 1 AP per 4 slaves where Security personal have a chance of being injured and non-security personal have a chance of being killed along with a high risk of being injured... That is day or night action right?
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 09:19 AM
Can I work while Exhausted? I mean, I'm up for it, I'm a tough SOB, but will the game allow it?
If so, I'll put in my order to get working on the pens ASAP.
FYI, and I don't know if this matters, but I saw a slave attack Danny and wound him
Alan T
07-09-2008, 09:20 AM
I assume it is day action as well.. so theoretically we have enough security personal to herd up the slaves today once the slave quarters are fixed...
Barkeep one other question.. once the slaves are herded up can they still go on an away mission today or not?
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 09:21 AM
awaiting orders capitan alan!
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:21 AM
Yeah, beds were already taken by the time I got there.
You got a message about your sleeping arrangements?
Alan T
07-09-2008, 09:22 AM
Can I work while Exhausted? I mean, I'm up for it, I'm a tough SOB, but will the game allow it?
If so, I'll put in my order to get working on the pens ASAP.
FYI, and I don't know if this matters, but I saw a slave attack Danny and wound him
You can still work if exhausted, you just have a small chance of the action failing.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:22 AM
awaiting orders capitan alan!
Hold on, I've got something coming for you.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 09:23 AM
You can still work if exhausted, you just have a small chance of the action failing.
Seems that since Danny won't be around till this afternoon that we need Tyrith and our other engineers to start up on the Slave pens (Those three should give 4 points of work with Tyrith's bonus).. and we can then see if any of the exhausted engineers failed because of exhaustion and then we need to order Danny to work on them too.
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 09:27 AM
You got a message about your sleeping arrangements?
I did.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:29 AM
I am going to start working on planning 2 mining away missions. Any reason I should do something else today?
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 09:29 AM
You can still work if exhausted, you just have a small chance of the action failing.
10-4 good buddy. I'll drop down the action now.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 09:30 AM
I am going to start working on planning 2 mining away missions. Any reason I should do something else today?
Kwhit, Were both of your planned missions from yesterday used up, or did Saldana not use your mining mission?
I kind of wouldn't mind if you held back at least 1 AP in case you need it to order someone to do a function. I'm trying to avoid doing any ordering today at least for now if I can just in case I need all 3 AP to destroy the slaves for some reason. If we get to later in the day and it doesnt look like you'll need to use that AP then go for another planning mission if you want.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 09:32 AM
Barkeep :
The slave herding action is 1 AP per 4 slaves where Security personal have a chance of being injured and non-security personal have a chance of being killed along with a high risk of being injured... That is day or night action right?
It is a day or night action.
Can I work while Exhausted? I mean, I'm up for it, I'm a tough SOB, but will the game allow it?
You can. There is a small chance your action won't happen. A VERY small chance.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:33 AM
Kwhit, Were both of your planned missions from yesterday used up, or did Saldana not use your mining mission?
I kind of wouldn't mind if you held back at least 1 AP in case you need it to order someone to do a function. I'm trying to avoid doing any ordering today at least for now if I can just in case I need all 3 AP to destroy the slaves for some reason. If we get to later in the day and it doesnt look like you'll need to use that AP then go for another planning mission if you want.
I asked BK about Saldana's mission, but never got an answer.
BK, do I still have a planned away mission available or did Saldana use it yesterday?
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 09:38 AM
Tyrith & jeheinz waste no time. Right after breakfast the two get to repairing the slave pens. Also after breakfast, mccollins approaches claphamsa and informs him that clap will be training to become an engineer.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 09:39 AM
I asked BK about Saldana's mission, but never got an answer.
BK, do I still have a planned away mission available or did Saldana use it yesterday?
It was the one planned by you.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:41 AM
So KWhit planned 2 missions yesterday and Telle and Saldana used them.
I think we need to send 2 mining missions out today.
What is the ramifications of our cargo hold being broken though?
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:42 AM
Found it:
If the Cargo Hold is damaged nothing may be taken in or out.
That needs to be fixed ASAP or mining missions are worthless.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:42 AM
dola, I assume that goes for water too!!
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 09:42 AM
The Cargo Hold The Cargo Hold houses Crystlium and Water. The game begins with the Cargo Hold full of Water. If the Cargo Hold does not have enough room to house any harvested Crystlium water will be automatically dumped out. If the Cargo Hold is damaged nothing may be taken in or out. Further, if the Cargo Hold is damaged in Space some of the contents of the cargo hold will leak out after each cycle (night AND day). A successful spawn attack requires 3-6 man cycles of repair time.
No point in doing mining now, gotta repair the hold first
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 09:43 AM
Too fast me, mc ;)
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 09:43 AM
Too fast FOR me, actually.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:44 AM
It was the one planned by you.
Bugger.
That makes me a little more suspicious of Saldana to be honest. He only had slaves with him, so no one else could have sabotaged the mission, so it was either a really really bad roll of the dice, or Saldana didn't do his job properly.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:44 AM
We don't have enough engineer power - The slave pen needs one more cycle to be fixed and the cargo hold needs 3 cycles to be fixed.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 09:44 AM
*wipes brow* We're not as screwed as it seemed like. Engineers need to work on the slave pens ASAP. Then everyone who can spare the AP needs to go slave herding. Then we'll deal with the other stuff -- the water next, probably.
Still catching up but I'm sending in this order immediately.
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 09:45 AM
Sigh, we have to fix the hold before we can take anything in or out. It says that it's damaged but the text is green, which is confusing, but I'm going to assume it's broke.
Which also means we have no water.
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 09:46 AM
We don't have enough engineer power - The slave pen needs one more cycle to be fixed and the cargo hold needs 3 cycles to be fixed.
I think the pens are probably little more important right now. Mainly because if we are constantly getting injured and having to trip over slaves, we won't have the time or resources to mine. Either way, looks like all the engineers are fixing the pens now.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:46 AM
Furthermore, regarding engineers and fixing the engine room:
Engine Room The ship may not lift-off (see Lift-Off below) unless the engines are working. Once the ship has lifted-off the engines may not be damaged. A successful spawn attack adds 3-8 man cycles of repair time to the engines. If the engines ever have at least 12 cycles worth of damage they will become so damaged that it will take twice as long for them to fix (in game terms the damage will be doubled). The ship cannot move with more than 5 units of damage.
The engine damage is currently at 8 cycles. Thus, if the engine is damaged 4 more cycles worth, it will automatically jump to 24 cycles worth of damage!
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:46 AM
Crap. How many cycles can we repair today?
Best case 6?
3 from the 3 engineers and the chief engineer gets 3 more. But there is a chance one or more won't take because of exhaustion....
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 09:47 AM
So is clap a full-bore engineer now?
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 09:47 AM
Plus they can likely fix the hold tonight.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 09:49 AM
BK - Because Danny was injured while working last night is that why his action didn't take?
We had 5 damage on the pens and Danny and I both worked, shouldn't that make 3 (now fixed with me and Tyrith on it today). Or does the fact he got wounded mean his action didn't count?
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 09:52 AM
I made a few changes to the Day 2 post as I'd forgotten that the Security HQ and Water plant were guarded, thus they didn't take any more slave damage. I also have clarified the phaser situation.
Nice!
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 09:52 AM
If we can't get any water out of the hold today we are in SERIOUSLY deep trouble. I'd like confirmation of the this fact, please.
Danny
07-09-2008, 09:52 AM
I'm not sure, it didn't say in my PM anything about my action failing or being successful, just that I was attacked by a slave. I am repairing the slave pens again today. Hopefully it will be successful.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:53 AM
Well, it looks like we won't be able to go mining today. So instead of wasting a day, I think we should send an away team out to explore again. I'd recommmend another mining mission.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:54 AM
If we can't get any water out of the hold today we are in SERIOUSLY deep trouble. I'd like confirmation of the this fact, please.
Yes, you're right.
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 09:54 AM
So is clap a full-bore engineer now?
Bk hasnt said naything so i would guess not till the night!
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:55 AM
Yes, you're right.
I mean, you're right that we'd be in trouble. I still would like BK to answer if we can or can't get water.
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 09:56 AM
Well, it looks like we won't be able to go mining today. So instead of wasting a day, I think we should send an away team out to explore again. I'd recommmend another mining mission.
typo?
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:57 AM
Hold on, I've got something coming for you.
What was this about, mcc?
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 09:58 AM
My guess is it was his training him into an engineer
KWhit
07-09-2008, 09:58 AM
typo?
I meant that I'd recommend an exploration mission focused on finding mining sites. Sorry that wasn't clear.
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 09:58 AM
hes training me to be an engineer
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:59 AM
In my opinion, the cargo hold was more important than the slave pen this morning. We could have had 2 mining missions for crys and then possibly 2 more tomorrow and been done mining.
And without water:
Water
Each day each member of the crew needs 1 unit of water per day. If a crew member does not receive water for one day they become dehydrated (see Status below). If a survivor does not receive water for two days they die. Spawn do not need water to survive.
Of course, we could use this to find any spawn among us... :rolleyes:
mccollins
07-09-2008, 09:59 AM
What was this about, mcc?
My guess is it was his training him into an engineer
Indeed. I sent the PM right after that.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:00 AM
Yes, let's discuss a little more before we start repairing anything. The water situation is very worrisome.
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:00 AM
In my opinion, the cargo hold was more important than the slave pen this morning. We could have had 2 mining missions for crys and then possibly 2 more tomorrow and been done mining.
And without water:
Of course, we could use this to find any spawn among us... :rolleyes:
Only problem is that if the slaves aren't back where they belong they keep breaking things worse -- and they break things at a faster rate than we can fix them, it seems.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 10:01 AM
I mean, you're right that we'd be in trouble. I still would like BK to answer if we can or can't get water.
The rules say if the cargo hold is broken nothing can be put in or taken out. Since it only holds water and crys, I'd think that that means we can't get water.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 10:01 AM
Only problem is that if the slaves aren't back where they belong they keep breaking things worse -- and they break things at a faster rate than we can fix them, it seems.
Yeah, but 40% of our required crys (assuming 2 hauls of 15 crys) might have been worth the repairs.
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 10:02 AM
Only problem is that if the slaves aren't back where they belong they keep breaking things worse -- and they break things at a faster rate than we can fix them, it seems.
That was my thought too. Plus - when it says we can go one day with out, does that include the night? Because we should be able to have the hold repaired tonight if every engineer works on that (and we aren't attacked harder, heh)
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:02 AM
A whole bunch of questions. Going to answer them shortly.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:04 AM
Only problem is that if the slaves aren't back where they belong they keep breaking things worse -- and they break things at a faster rate than we can fix them, it seems.
Yes, but if we don't fix the cargo hold we are ALL dehydrated tomorrow. That means that if the spawn can damage it tonight to the point where we can't fix it tomorrow, WE ALL DIE.
That wouldn't be good for our prospects of winning the game.
:)
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:04 AM
Yeah, but 40% of our required crys (assuming 2 hauls of 15 crys) might have been worth the repairs.
Crys can wait. We're talking about everyone being DEAD in 36 hours.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:05 AM
Yes, but if we don't fix the cargo hold we are ALL dehydrated tomorrow. That means that if the spawn can damage it tonight to the point where we can't fix it tomorrow, WE ALL DIE.
That wouldn't be good for our prospects of winning the game.
:)
Well....
This post was written without thinking about the engineers working through the night, so we have a little wiggle room.....
Hmmm.....
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:05 AM
Yes, but if we don't fix the cargo hold we are ALL dehydrated tomorrow. That means that if the spawn can damage it tonight to the point where we can't fix it tomorrow, WE ALL DIE.
That wouldn't be good for our prospects of winning the game.
:)
We can defend it from the spawn during the night. We'll take loses, but it happens. We could defend it from the slaves, too, but there are other parts of the ship we need to work, too. The slaves just do way, way too much damage to the ship in general to be left running around like this. We can't keep taking six or eight cycles of damage every cycle - we can't defend everything, and we need most of the ship to work.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:05 AM
Can we get a list going of what all the exhausted people have done?
RendeR
Hoopsguy- guarded (?) sleeping quarters
Tyrith- worked overnight on the HQ
PurdueBrad- worked overnight on the HQ
Danny- worked overnight on the pens
JeHeinz- worked overnight on the pens
Oliegirl- guarded (?) sleeping quarters
Passacaglia- guarded the HQ
Schmidty- guarded the water
Mrs. Schmidty- guarded (?) the sleeping quarters
Packerfanatic
Bulletsponge
I filled in the ones I know. As for the question marks, I simply wasn't sure if that is what their action was. That leaves a couple people unaccounted for that I'm curious about their actions.
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:06 AM
Whose dumb-ass idea was it to bring SLAVES anyway? What kind of bizarre future do we live in?
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:06 AM
I'm with Tyrith on this. We have to get those slaves back in their pen or we risk more damage to the ship, which we're already struggling to repair and more wounded people and possibly some deaths.
The water thing sucks, but I think if we didn't take care of the slaves first we'd potentially just be spinning our wheels. I'd like to avoid, if possible, Alan having to kill off the slaves. I think his time is better served elsewhere.
oliegirl
07-09-2008, 10:07 AM
I spied on Saldana last night, he didn't do anything. I was also attacked by a slave but was able to kill him with my phaser.
Did anyone else get a PM regarding sleeping conditions?
mccollins
07-09-2008, 10:07 AM
Crys can wait. We're talking about everyone being DEAD in 36 hours.
If you're talking about being dead from not having water because the cargo hold is not fixed then we agree ;)
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:07 AM
So is clap a full-bore engineer now?
Not until Day 3.
BK - Because Danny was injured while working last night is that why his action didn't take?
No that was a mistake of mine. I went back and fixed the Day 2 post. For that reason I am not counting PurdueBrad's action at this time, as the Slave Pens are indeed fixed and the slaves may be put back into them. Alan had also previously asked: the slaves may go on an away mission today.
If we can't get any water out of the hold today we are in SERIOUSLY deep trouble. I'd like confirmation of the this fact, please.
No water may be gotten from the Cargo Hold. If an away mission is run, any water gained from that may be used by the crew today, however anything unused would be wasted.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:08 AM
Seriously, why did we need slaves? We have clap.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:09 AM
Okay, I'm around. Tyrith, where should I repair?
mccollins
07-09-2008, 10:09 AM
The slaves just do way, way too much damage to the ship in general to be left running around like this. We can't keep taking six or eight cycles of damage every cycle - we can't defend everything, and we need most of the ship to work.
Just so we're on the same page, this is absolutely true as well.
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:10 AM
No water may be gotten from the Cargo Hold. If an away mission is run, any water gained from that may be used by the crew today, however anything unused would be wasted.
Wow. Water mission, here we come?
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:10 AM
PS- BK, that is a very good job of GM'ing, thanks for correcting and then holding off on my actions. I shouldn't be surprised, but nice job.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:10 AM
Well that helps. PB and Danny can work on the cargo hold today, leaving just 1 point of damage there.
If I'm reading this right, up to and counting Tyrith and I working on the pens on Day 2 we've got
Operational: Security HQ, Slave Pens
Damaged: Engine (8), Water Plant (6), Cargo Hold (3), Sleeping Quarters (18)
That look right?
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:11 AM
Okay...well, we might have to go fishing for water today. Which sucks, but dehydration on top of our other issues might make it worse. Dehydration isn't listed under the statuses, BTW.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:12 AM
I'd say we get Danny and PB on the Cargo Hold today. We should then be able to get that fixed up tonight easily.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:12 AM
Well that helps. PB and Danny can work on the cargo hold today, leaving just 1 point of damage there.
If I'm reading this right, up to and counting Tyrith and I working on the pens on Day 2 we've got
Operational: Security HQ, Slave Pens
Damaged: Engine (8), Water Plant (6), Cargo Hold (3), Sleeping Quarters (18)
That look right?
Yes.
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:12 AM
I want confirmation that the slave pens are fixed before we start fixing other things. We need those slaves herded back before we commit our other engineering time.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:12 AM
Cargo hold sounds good to me. From there, it'll be a tough choice with the sleeping quarters almost decimated, the engine getting dangerously close to doubling in damage, and the water plant taking hits.
I'm on the cargo hold now.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:13 AM
Okay...well, we might have to go fishing for water today. Which sucks, but dehydration on top of our other issues might make it worse. Dehydration isn't listed under the statuses, BTW.
That's funny. I didn't change that section at all from last time which means it was missing last game too. Dehydration is like exhaustion, with the negative effects on rolls, with the added bonus of possible death.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:14 AM
BK, if we repair the cargo hold today, we can drink the water from there today without ever incurring dehydration, correct?
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:14 AM
I'd like to know why path is wounded. Path, anything happen to you last night?
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 10:14 AM
I spied on Saldana last night, he didn't do anything. I was also attacked by a slave but was able to kill him with my phaser.
Did anyone else get a PM regarding sleeping conditions?
I did - and although I tried sleeping, the beds were already full when I got there (from the damage), hence why I am exhausted. Plus I got hurt while trying to look for somewhere else to sleep. Damn slaves.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:15 AM
I want confirmation that the slave pens are fixed before we start fixing other things. We need those slaves herded back before we commit our other engineering time.
The ship breathes a sigh of relief as there is still work to be done on the Slave Pens, but the slaves may be herded back to them. Tyrtith and jeheinz are confidant that they will be fully finished with the repairs, without any more assistance, by the end of the day.
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 10:16 AM
We might want to consider just axing all the slaves now that the pens are fixed. Seriously, other than going on away missions, they are causing more damage then they are worth now. They we can at least breath a little easier.
path12
07-09-2008, 10:16 AM
I spied on Saldana last night, he didn't do anything. I was also attacked by a slave but was able to kill him with my phaser.
Did anyone else get a PM regarding sleeping conditions?
Should I take it as interesting or suspicious that there were three security people in the sleeping quarters (if I read the results right) yet I was attacked by a slave during the night?
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 10:16 AM
ONCE the pens are fixed, I should say.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:17 AM
I'm confused on the whole slave pen deal. So there were 3 man cycles left at the beginning of the day. And then who has been repairing them today to make them usable? I think I missed that part.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:17 AM
BK, if we repair the cargo hold today, we can drink the water from there today without ever incurring dehydration, correct?
Correct. However, I made a mistake yesterday. Water is drunk at the beginning of the day cycle, not at the end of it. Therefore, everyone is dehydrated today, however, you have the rest of this day cycle and the night cycle to fix either the water plant or cargo hold.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 10:18 AM
So, I don't guess we can use the slaves to herd the slaves, eh?
Who should use their AP on getting that done? Security staff? Privates?
If privates, who will go on the water mission?
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:18 AM
I still don't feel comfortable using up our engineering actions until we know for sure the slave pens are fixed.
path12
07-09-2008, 10:18 AM
Okay, I'm around. Tyrith, where should I repair?
I would say the cargo hold but I'm not Tyrith....
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:18 AM
Dola, that's obviously irrelevant now. We can start putting turns in on the cargo hold.
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:19 AM
Cargo hold for sure.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:19 AM
Correct. However, I made a mistake yesterday. Water is drunk at the beginning of the day cycle, not at the end of it. Therefore, everyone is dehydrated today, however, you have the rest of this day cycle and the night cycle to fix either the water plant or cargo hold.
Okay. Let's hedge our bets here and go on a water hunt today and get the cargo hold fixed asap.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:19 AM
I was originally, tentatively, against the idea of killing the slaves but after cleaning up their mess for three cycles, they've got to go.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:19 AM
Correct. However, I made a mistake yesterday. Water is drunk at the beginning of the day cycle, not at the end of it. Therefore, everyone is dehydrated today, however, you have the rest of this day cycle and the night cycle to fix either the water plant or cargo hold.
This is more trouble than it's worth. The survivors get a break here. Hence forth, water will be drunk at the start of the day cycle not the end. However, yesterday it was drunk at the end cause that's when you landed on the planet. No members of the crew are dehydrated at this time.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:20 AM
So, I don't guess we can use the slaves to herd the slaves, eh?
Who should use their AP on getting that done? Security staff? Privates?
If privates, who will go on the water mission?
Security staff as they can't be killed by them, I believe.
path12
07-09-2008, 10:20 AM
I'd like to know why path is wounded. Path, anything happen to you last night?
I got a bed apparently but was attacked by a slave during the night that I managed to fight off.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 10:20 AM
I still don't feel comfortable using up our engineering actions until we know for sure the slave pens are fixed.
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The ship breathes a sigh of relief as there is still work to be done on the Slave Pens, but the slaves may be herded back to them. Tyrtith and jeheinz are confidant that they will be fully finished with the repairs, without any more assistance, by the end of the day.
:confused:
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:21 AM
Correct. However, I made a mistake yesterday. Water is drunk at the beginning of the day cycle, not at the end of it. Therefore, everyone is dehydrated today, however, you have the rest of this day cycle and the night cycle to fix either the water plant or cargo hold.
So if the cargo hold gets damaged again at night, we're all screwed?
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:21 AM
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:confused:
Posts are coming quickly, have patience.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:22 AM
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:confused:
What's the confusion at this point?
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 10:23 AM
Seriously, why did we need slaves? We have clap.ass
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:24 AM
This is more trouble than it's worth. The survivors get a break here. Hence forth, water will be drunk at the start of the day cycle not the end. However, yesterday it was drunk at the end cause that's when you landed on the planet. No members of the crew are dehydrated at this time.
So this is good news. We don't have to get water yet as we should be able to repair the cargo hold by tomorrow morning. If things go according to plan, we'll never get dehydrated at all.
(crosses fingers)
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:25 AM
I got a bed apparently but was attacked by a slave during the night that I managed to fight off.
A slave got to you in the brig?
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 10:25 AM
can peple rest during the day? maybe some of the exhausted people should rest during the day!
RendeR
07-09-2008, 10:25 AM
Barkeep: Do I lose the start of Chubby's training to be an Ensign if I do something else today or can I complete his training tomorrow?
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:25 AM
PurdueBrad merrily moseys on down to the Cargo Hold to enact some repairs.
RendeR
07-09-2008, 10:26 AM
ass
*points at the red shirt* Dude, he's got a point ;)
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:26 AM
Barkeep: Do I lose the start of Chubby's training to be an Ensign if I do something else today or can I complete his training tomorrow?
You can finish his training at anytime.
oliegirl
07-09-2008, 10:26 AM
I did - and although I tried sleeping, the beds were already full when I got there (from the damage), hence why I am exhausted. Plus I got hurt while trying to look for somewhere else to sleep. Damn slaves.
I didn't get one, my question was actually directed at your comment about getting a PM about the sleeping conditions. I was wondering if anyone else got one like yours.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:26 AM
A slave got to you in the brig?
We didn't have a brig last night. The security HQ was damaged.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:27 AM
A slave got to you in the brig?
No one was in the brig as it was broken at the start of the night cycle.
path12
07-09-2008, 10:27 AM
A slave got to you in the brig?
I wasn't in the brig because the slaves busted up the security HQ or whatever it was.
RendeR
07-09-2008, 10:27 AM
Ok someone help me out for a second, Which Private has NOT been trained or assigned to do anything yet?
I think its bullet and marc vaughn?
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:27 AM
All together now!
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:28 AM
I didn't get one, my question was actually directed at your comment about getting a PM about the sleeping conditions. I was wondering if anyone else got one like yours.
Did you perform an action last night, olie? If so, then you wouldn't have been sleeping.
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:28 AM
A slave got to you in the brig?
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:28 AM
Pass the bring was broken. :D
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:29 AM
So this is good news. We don't have to get water yet as we should be able to repair the cargo hold by tomorrow morning. If things go according to plan, we'll never get dehydrated at all.
(crosses fingers)
We're going to need defense on the cargo hold tonight to make certain of this.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:29 AM
I love all this cross posting. It's going to make hoops' head explode later.
path12
07-09-2008, 10:29 AM
A slave got to you in the brig?
Well, I am a handsome man.
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:29 AM
Pass the bring was broken. :D
Did you call it a bring cuz all it does is bring me votes? :D
RendeR
07-09-2008, 10:30 AM
We need to get those slaves rounded up too. before they wreck something ELSE. Then Alan needs to Frag the lot of them.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:30 AM
We're going to need defense on the cargo hold tonight to make certain of this.
Agreed
BK - Can we over-repair, like even if the Cargo Hold has 1 point of damage going into the night can we send let's say 2-3 points worth of repair to it to ward against damage that happens that night?
oliegirl
07-09-2008, 10:30 AM
Did you perform an action last night, olie? If so, then you wouldn't have been sleeping.
I already posted that I spied on Saldana and he wasn't doing anything.
I was asking b/c I have not seen any other posts about getting a PM regarding sleeping conditions. That's all. I'm not asking because I didn't get one.
To clarify...did anyone whose night action was to sleep, get a PM about sleeping conditions????
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:31 AM
Did you call it a bring cuz all it does is bring me votes? :D
Haha, evidently, subconsciously I did.
RendeR
07-09-2008, 10:32 AM
Olie: I got a PM related to that but it was because I stayed awake. Hence my Exhausted status. I saw nothing out o the ordinary other than hearing the racket the slaves were making as they rampaged around us.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:32 AM
Just whistle while you work (whistle)
Put that screwdriver in and spin
tightening that screw
Just hum a merry tune (hum)
Just forget that you need some rest
and say to the slaves, "F*ck you."
When there's too much to do
Don't let it bother you, forget your troubles
and know that Tyrith, Danny, and Heinz are here too
And whistle while you work (whistle)
Come on you stupid slaves and Spawn
quit acting like jerks
Just whistle while you work (whistle)
And together we can slay the slaves
So hum a merry tune (hum)
It won't take long with our phasers
to put the slaves in their graves
And as you work the cargo hold
keeping us drinking is bold
and necessary for the win
now if we can just kill some baddies
When we have water and their are no more slaves time will fly
so whistle while you work.
Telle
07-09-2008, 10:33 AM
Did you perform an action last night, olie? If so, then you wouldn't have been sleeping.
I slept but didn't get a PM about it.
path12
07-09-2008, 10:33 AM
To clarify...did anyone whose night action was to sleep, get a PM about sleeping conditions????
My PM didn't specify the sleeping conditions. After the brig was damaged I sent in my move to spend the night in the sleeping quarters. My PM just informed me about the slave attack. I am assuming it took place there.
path12
07-09-2008, 10:34 AM
Well hummed, PB.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:35 AM
Since Hoops is away most of today, I'm going to step in and ask that the security staff work on rounding up the slaves. We need 5 security staff each to round up 4 slaves into the pen.
Tyrith seems like he has the Engineers working well, I agree that the cargo hold is next on the list.
Kwhit sounds like planning the away missions is good, but I don't really want any other officers other than Telle to leave the ship probably.. So maybe we can have Telle lead an exploration mission and Saldana lead the slaves in another mission if you have something else in mind.. henging on one question for Barkeep:
Barkeep can the slaves be herded into the pens, then go on an away mission today, and then all be killed if I so choose all in the same day phase?
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:35 AM
Well hummed, PB.
Gracias. Wasn't sure if I was verging on being annoying and then decided screw it (bad pun intended).
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:38 AM
Agreed
BK - Can we over-repair, like even if the Cargo Hold has 1 point of damage going into the night can we send let's say 2-3 points worth of repair to it to ward against damage that happens that night?
You can over repair, but only in case someone fakes their actions.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:38 AM
So the engineers are all repairing, the security folks should start rounding up the slaves, so I think the rest of us (or some of the rest of us) should go exploring to try to find good mining sites.
The risk here is that we could expose someone to a spawn conversion while we're out. Thoughts?
Chubby
07-09-2008, 10:38 AM
I got attacked by a friggin slave after I fell asleep hence I am wounded but not exhusted.
I personally don't see a point to doing half training, if people are being training they should be finished up so the trained people can do their new roles. Unless of course there's a dire need for something else. Just my $0.02 on that matter.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:38 AM
For the security staff to round up slaves.. I guess that seems best to do the following:
oliegirl - gather slaves
Passacagalia - don't gather slaves so you can lock someone in the brig tonight instead
Schmidty - gather slaves
Saldana - gather slaves
Mrs. Schmidty - gather slaves
So Kwhit, looks like we probably need saldana to gather slaves and not do an away mission today anyways... Unless Hoops would rather use his AP for slave gathering today instead of something else.. but since Im not sure when Hoops will be around and if it will be before away teams can do it... probably going to be scheduling issues there..
Seems like the main security member we don't want ot gather slaves would be Passacaglia so he can lock people in the brig... Anyone disagree?
bulletsponge
07-09-2008, 10:39 AM
Private BS reporting. *yawn* damn beds were all taken so i wandered around trying to find a place to sleep, but all the engineers were making a racket so i didnt get any sleep
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:39 AM
If we can get the slaves gathered before the day is over maybe we could send Saldana alone outside to get some water, just in case. In a perfect world this shouldn't be necessary but we're not in a good place right now...
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:39 AM
For the security staff to round up slaves.. I guess that seems best to do the following:
oliegirl - gather slaves
Passacagalia - don't gather slaves so you can lock someone in the brig tonight instead
Schmidty - gather slaves
Saldana - gather slaves
Mrs. Schmidty - gather slaves
So Kwhit, looks like we probably need saldana to gather slaves and not do an away mission today anyways... Unless Hoops would rather use his AP for slave gathering today instead of something else.. but since Im not sure when Hoops will be around and if it will be before away teams can do it... probably going to be scheduling issues there..
Seems like the main security member we don't want ot gather slaves would be Passacaglia so he can lock people in the brig... Anyone disagree?
That makes sense Alan.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:40 AM
So the engineers are all repairing, the security folks should start rounding up the slaves, so I think the rest of us (or some of the rest of us) should go exploring to try to find good mining sites.
The risk here is that we could expose someone to a spawn conversion while we're out. Thoughts?
I am thinking Telle, 1 scientist (maybe Lonestargirl this time since Packer went yesterday), and any privates not busy go on an exploration mission?
Not sure if we have anyone else available to go out.. so that woulud leave you one AP to order someone to do something if needed (ie: Schmidty to round up slaves if he isn't around during the day because of work)
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:40 AM
Olie: I got a PM related to that but it was because I stayed awake. Hence my Exhausted status. I saw nothing out o the ordinary other than hearing the racket the slaves were making as they rampaged around us.
That helps. The only other exhausted person whose actions we don't know about is bullet. Meanwhile, I count 11 people who are not exhausted.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:41 AM
"Attention. Your attention please. This is your second officer, Render speaking. Will bulletsponge please report to the infirmary to act as medic. Bulletsponge to the infirmary to act as medic. Thank you.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:42 AM
If we can get the slaves gathered before the day is over maybe we could send Saldana alone outside to get some water, just in case. In a perfect world this shouldn't be necessary but we're not in a good place right now...
That is what I was initially thinking.. but the problem is if Saldana uses his AP for that, it means either Passacaglia has to gather slaves and we lose the brig or Hoopsguy has to gather slaves and we lose his various abilities.
We might be to a place here where we just say slaves have to go.. Saldana helps round them up, we kill them off and our engineers do night time work to fix the rest of the cargo hold. Then since with no slaves Saldana's role is pointless, he can be transfered to a different type of assignment as needed.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:42 AM
I am thinking Telle, 1 scientist (maybe Lonestargirl this time since Packer went yesterday), and any privates not busy go on an exploration mission?
Not sure if we have anyone else available to go out.. so that woulud leave you one AP to order someone to do something if needed (ie: Schmidty to round up slaves if he isn't around during the day because of work)
Let's send out the same team that was so successful yesterday, led by Telle.
bulletsponge
07-09-2008, 10:42 AM
woot! um how do i act as a medic? am i being trained?
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:43 AM
I am going to get started planning the exploration mission.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:43 AM
Let's send out the same team that was so successful yesterday, led by Telle.
Ok, that works.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:43 AM
woot! um how do i act as a medic? am i being trained?
You are already a medic. You can send a PM to me about someone whose wounds you wish to cure.
oliegirl
07-09-2008, 10:43 AM
Maybe I'm reading into things, but the PF comment about his PM is just striking me as odd. I'm not ready to put a vote on him yet, but it's definitely different from what everyone else seems to have rec'd. Plus, he posted that after BK had told us that some of the beds were damaged - so if he didn't want to reveal his actions last night it would have been a very simple and logical jump to say that he had tried to sleep but there weren't enough beds...
Thoughts???
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:43 AM
That helps. The only other exhausted person whose actions we don't know about is bullet. Meanwhile, I count 11 people who are not exhausted.
According to post 574, we had room for 11 people to sleep.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:45 AM
Maybe I'm reading into things, but the PF comment about his PM is just striking me as odd. I'm not ready to put a vote on him yet, but it's definitely different from what everyone else seems to have rec'd. Plus, he posted that after BK had told us that some of the beds were damaged - so if he didn't want to reveal his actions last night it would have been a very simple and logical jump to say that he had tried to sleep but there weren't enough beds...
Thoughts???
Were there any other people who tried to sleep but couldn't because of lack of beds? It does appear that all were taken last night.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 10:45 AM
"Let's hope that this mission is as good as yesterday's. I have another exploration mission ready," KWhit informs the crew.
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 10:46 AM
Maybe I'm reading into things, but the PF comment about his PM is just striking me as odd. I'm not ready to put a vote on him yet, but it's definitely different from what everyone else seems to have rec'd. Plus, he posted that after BK had told us that some of the beds were damaged - so if he didn't want to reveal his actions last night it would have been a very simple and logical jump to say that he had tried to sleep but there weren't enough beds...
Thoughts???
Which comment? I made a couple - and the first one I made was made BEFORE I actually got the PM, so I wasn't actually sure what happened.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:46 AM
Warden (1 AP per cycle)
Place in Protective Custody Day Only May compile a list of up to four people to place in the Brig during the night. The Security Headquarters must be undamaged during the day in order to do this. 1 AP
Quick question regarding this. The four people that are placed in protective custody, do they also sleep while in the brig? If so, I'm thinking that we may want to put two engineers in there to both protect them and let them rest.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:47 AM
Telle if you're still around, could you go out on that mission with the same group you took yesterday? Unless you have a different thought, in which case, let's discuss it.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:47 AM
Is the brig-COT a safe idea? Could spawnlings have infected new people last night?
Also, I'd echo that the same people should leave the ship, less people to scan.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:47 AM
Quick question regarding this. The four people that are placed in protective custody, do they also sleep while in the brig? If so, I'm thinking that we may want to put two engineers in there to both protect them and let them rest.
We need the engineers working day and night.
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:48 AM
That is what I was initially thinking.. but the problem is if Saldana uses his AP for that, it means either Passacaglia has to gather slaves and we lose the brig or Hoopsguy has to gather slaves and we lose his various abilities.
We might be to a place here where we just say slaves have to go.. Saldana helps round them up, we kill them off and our engineers do night time work to fix the rest of the cargo hold. Then since with no slaves Saldana's role is pointless, he can be transfered to a different type of assignment as needed.
If we get this stabilized though those slaves could be so beneficial because we don't have to keep sending so many people outside...we're going to have to take a lot more risks of spawnling conversion if we don't keep using them.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:49 AM
Quick question regarding this. The four people that are placed in protective custody, do they also sleep while in the brig? If so, I'm thinking that we may want to put two engineers in there to both protect them and let them rest.
I believe they do sleep, but I would rather us use the Brig for our CoT.. Path needs to scan someone else today and then have Pass lock Path + that person in the brig... We'll have to discuss whether or not to put Kwhit in there now, as I mentioned yesterday I don't think we can assume anything that we can directly trace no spawn infection possibilities for...
So if no one guarded or protected kwhit last night (please say so if you did), then I don't personally think he should be locked in the brig.. and it should be only Path + the new person he scans.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:49 AM
Is the brig-COT a safe idea? Could spawnlings have infected new people last night?
Well, we didn't have a brig last night, so anything could have happened.
I was guarded by MrsS last night so I'm more CoT worthy than probably anyone else at this point, but nothing is certain, I'm afraid.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:50 AM
If we get this stabilized though those slaves could be so beneficial because we don't have to keep sending so many people outside...we're going to have to take a lot more risks of spawnling conversion if we don't keep using them.
For the record, I haven't completely made up my mind on the slaves.. There is a high risk/reward factor to them.. Almost down to a person everyone chose the low risk/reward decision on where to land the ship, so I am assuming most would do the same here and ask for the slaves to be killed.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:51 AM
Well, we didn't have a brig last night, so anything could have happened.
I was guarded by MrsS last night so I'm more CoT worthy than probably anyone else at this point, but nothing is certain, I'm afraid.
Ahh I missed MrsS saying she guarded you. If she did do that, then yeah I'm ok with you going back in the brig again.. it leaves us a direct line to follow for other spawn to either Path or MrsS or both if you end up bad later on.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:51 AM
I'd agree on the Kwhit/brig issue
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 10:53 AM
ok... did we get na answer on sleeping during the dya?
also why the talk of killing the slaves? the odds they get back out are small. and they do serve some purpuse!
and why over repair the hold, we have tons of crap to fix dont waste i t!
heinze is bugging me, anyone else? it seems hes makign suggestions and they are mostly couterproductive....
vote heinze!
Tyrith
07-09-2008, 10:53 AM
For the record, I haven't completely made up my mind on the slaves.. There is a high risk/reward factor to them.. Almost down to a person everyone chose the low risk/reward decision on where to land the ship, so I am assuming most would do the same here and ask for the slaves to be killed.
Game has changed since then, though. Our situation currently sucks, and sucks badly. If we take on more spawn and they break more stuff we may never get off this rock. It's going to take us several days just to fix the stuff that has already been broken. This isn't a high risk/high reward versus low risk/low reward -- it's just deciding what your high risk is going to be, and I'd rather hope we can keep our security HQ situation stable than deal with more infections.
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 10:53 AM
oh yeah, I gotta go off to work now (even though ive been here for 5 hours :) )
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:54 AM
Ah ok, then if Mrs. S guarded you, I'm ok with that too.
Personally, I say we lock up the slaves and then not kill them. I'd imagine our odds at a 2nd revolt are slim and they can help mine
Marc Vaughan
07-09-2008, 10:54 AM
Finally wakes up ... "Hi chaps" ... got a lot of reading to do to catch up ..
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 10:55 AM
IF we kill the slaves, doesn't that also mean that we can basically ignore the slave pens for repairs too and just focus on everything else (water pump, cargo hold, security, brig, engines)? I think that is what makes killing the slaves worthwhile. It eliminates one place we have to worry about.
Chubby
07-09-2008, 10:55 AM
Just so everyone knows, I have to work tonight 1pm EST til close (10:30pm) so I won't be home til 11ish pm EST. I will have my vote in before I leave and I plan on voting for someone as I don't think we can do 2 nights without a lynch.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 10:55 AM
ok... did we get na answer on sleeping during the dya?
also why the talk of killing the slaves? the odds they get back out are small. and they do serve some purpuse!
and why over repair the hold, we have tons of crap to fix dont waste i t!
heinze is bugging me, anyone else? it seems hes makign suggestions and they are mostly couterproductive....
vote heinze!
Nice vote and run.
And how am I counterproductive? If anything, I pointed out a moderator error that's going to greatly enhance our chances at avoiding dehydration.
But whatever man.
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:56 AM
Finally wakes up ... "Hi chaps" ... got a lot of reading to do to catch up ..
Have fun...by the way, we already lynched you and found out you were spawn. ;)
Alan T
07-09-2008, 10:56 AM
Have fun...by the way, we already lynched you and found out you were spawn. ;)
lol...
mccollins
07-09-2008, 10:57 AM
That helps. The only other exhausted person whose actions we don't know about is bullet. Meanwhile, I count 11 people who are not exhausted.
Which would coordinate with the 11 unbroken beds. However 6 more beds got broken at some point.
The Security HQ was fixed last night and should have protected the sleeping quarters.
BK - What's the timing on all that? The beds were broken while the Security HQ was still being fixed?
KWhit
07-09-2008, 10:58 AM
For the record, I haven't completely made up my mind on the slaves.. There is a high risk/reward factor to them.. Almost down to a person everyone chose the low risk/reward decision on where to land the ship, so I am assuming most would do the same here and ask for the slaves to be killed.
Well....
I already have some (slight) suspicion of Saldana being a spawn. This is because of his horrible performance mining yesterday. It's not much to go on, but it's better than nothing.
So we can sorta kinda kill two birds with one stone and lynch Saldana and kill the slaves today and we'd not be losing an important role and we'd get rid of the slave security risk. Kind of heartless, but such is life.
If I implicitly trusted Saldana, I'd probably advocate keeping the slaves alive, but I don't.
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 10:58 AM
Nice vote and run.
And how am I counterproductive? If anything, I pointed out a moderator error that's going to greatly enhance our chances at avoiding dehydration.
But whatever man.
someon eelse would have caught it. great way to build trust without actually doing anythign :)
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 10:58 AM
VOTE CLAPHAMSA
path12
07-09-2008, 10:58 AM
Quick question regarding this. The four people that are placed in protective custody, do they also sleep while in the brig? If so, I'm thinking that we may want to put two engineers in there to both protect them and let them rest.
I don't want anyone in the brig except for people I've cleared.
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 10:58 AM
IF we kill the slaves, doesn't that also mean that we can basically ignore the slave pens for repairs too and just focus on everything else (water pump, cargo hold, security, brig, engines)? I think that is what makes killing the slaves worthwhile. It eliminates one place we have to worry about.
yeah but the pens cant be hurt if the sec HQ is fixed.... so its not such a big deal!
claphamsa
07-09-2008, 10:59 AM
ok, gotta go...
sorry admiral, i was late cuz i was playign WW
KWhit
07-09-2008, 11:00 AM
IF we kill the slaves, doesn't that also mean that we can basically ignore the slave pens for repairs too and just focus on everything else (water pump, cargo hold, security, brig, engines)? I think that is what makes killing the slaves worthwhile. It eliminates one place we have to worry about.
We have to fix the slave pens in order to kill them, unless we wanted to try running around killing them one at a time (which would suck).
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 11:00 AM
Which would coordinate with the 11 unbroken beds. However 6 more beds got broken at some point.
The Security HQ was fixed last night and should have protected the sleeping quarters.
BK - What's the timing on all that? The beds were broken while the Security HQ was still being fixed?
Correct.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 11:00 AM
someon eelse would have caught it. great way to build trust without actually doing anythign :)
But if I'm a spawn, why even mention it? Frankly, I think I've been rather on the ball repairing things and doing my job, in addition to bringing up something that at least had a chance of not being noticed.
That's two people who've somewhat (in my mind) randomly brought me up, while I think I've been as villager as villager can be.
Something to keep in mind should I end up dead.
path12
07-09-2008, 11:01 AM
Is the brig-COT a safe idea? Could spawnlings have infected new people last night?
Also, I'd echo that the same people should leave the ship, less people to scan.
One point I'd like to clarify on the scanning -- I would far prefer to have clean or spawnling scans to form a CoT -- I'm not necessarily trying to find spawn, because when I do I'm dead and we're down a doc.
I look at it kind of like Stratego where the Spawn are the bombs I'm trying to avoid but will have to hit at some point......
mccollins
07-09-2008, 11:01 AM
If we get this stabilized though those slaves could be so beneficial because we don't have to keep sending so many people outside...we're going to have to take a lot more risks of spawnling conversion if we don't keep using them.
I fully agree.
Telle
07-09-2008, 11:01 AM
Telle if you're still around, could you go out on that mission with the same group you took yesterday? Unless you have a different thought, in which case, let's discuss it.
Sure, I'll get right on that.
Marc Vaughan
07-09-2008, 11:02 AM
I already have some (slight) suspicion of Saldana being a spawn.
Hey I up that and say I have a slight suspiscion of everyone being a spawn ... possibly including myself (I might have a split personality and not be telling myself everything ;) ) ...
However I will state for the case that I am NOT a spawn (that way which ever of you is an empath can verify me) ...
(thought this might be a useful thing to kick off if we're going to be able to form a circle of truth then he's the most likely person to be able to start it going)
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 11:02 AM
I don't want anyone in the brig except for people I've cleared.
That makes sense to me. I've gone from feeling like the engineers were a bit expendable to feeling like we might be more important than I originally thought and was trying to find a way to both get a couple of them rest and keep a couple of them safe. So I think once we get our hands around this current damage crisis, we start a rotation or work/rest with the engineers as long as we can. I think I also saw that there was another engineer being trained which is a very good thing.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:03 AM
One point I'd like to clarify on the scanning -- I would far prefer to have clean or spawnling scans to form a CoT -- I'm not necessarily trying to find spawn, because when I do I'm dead and we're down a doc.
I look at it kind of like Stratego where the Spawn are the bombs I'm trying to avoid but will have to hit at some point......
Path, scan me please if you don't mind.
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 11:03 AM
One point I'd like to clarify on the scanning -- I would far prefer to have clean or spawnling scans to form a CoT -- I'm not necessarily trying to find spawn, because when I do I'm dead and we're down a doc.
I look at it kind of like Stratego where the Spawn are the bombs I'm trying to avoid but will have to hit at some point......
ha, I love that game. Haven't played in forever though.
But you're saying path that you'd almost rather not scan the people who leave the ship (since they'd presumably have a higher chance of being spawn)
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:04 AM
Path, scan me please if you don't mind.
I'll explain why after I make sure you haven't already submitted a different scan order or not.. Would rather not give the reason out publically yet if you go a different direction
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 11:04 AM
I think I also saw that there was another engineer being trained which is a very good thing.
Yeah but it's clap, who IMO is looking spawn-y.
path12
07-09-2008, 11:06 AM
Ahh I missed MrsS saying she guarded you. If she did do that, then yeah I'm ok with you going back in the brig again.. it leaves us a direct line to follow for other spawn to either Path or MrsS or both if you end up bad later on.
Did anyone guard me last night?
mccollins
07-09-2008, 11:07 AM
We have to fix the slave pens in order to kill them, unless we wanted to try running around killing them one at a time (which would suck).
Sounds like the 2 phasers that are "spent" in the weapons locker were one-shot phasers to coordinate with the 2 dead slaves.
Sounds like we only have 3 more "bullets" to kill slaves with besides hoops' 3-shot phaser he has talked about.
Does anyone know if we have access to more 'phasers'? I never watched Star Trek - do these things recharge or something?
(Sorry, can't resist: "DON'T TASE ME BRO!!")
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 11:07 AM
Stratego is awesome...
Passacaglia
07-09-2008, 11:07 AM
ha, I love that game. Haven't played in forever though.
But you're saying path that you'd almost rather not scan the people who leave the ship (since they'd presumably have a higher chance of being spawn)
With Clue and Chess, I've had a bit of a board-game theme to my games. I thought about trying to do Stratego to keep the theme going, but I'd have to remember how to play again, and see if it's even possible to make it into a WW game.
I'm with path on that one -- people leaving the ship essentially become uncleared.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 11:08 AM
Did anyone guard Path last night?
Chubby
07-09-2008, 11:08 AM
Ok I'm going to get this in while I still have a few mins to be convinced otherwise...
Lynch Saldana
We've had one poor mission, led by Saldana, and nothing but problems with the slaves, with Saldana being the Slave Master. Maybe it's coincidence but maybe not. He's the highest on my distrusted list with myself and KWhit the highest on my trusted list since i know I'm not spawn and I'm pretty sure KWhit isn't spawn.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 11:09 AM
When did Hoops say that he would be around today?
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 11:09 AM
Sounds like the 2 phasers that are "spent" in the weapons locker were one-shot phasers to coordinate with the 2 dead slaves.
Sounds like we only have 3 more "bullets" to kill slaves with besides hoops' 3-shot phaser he has talked about.
Does anyone know if we have access to more 'phasers'? I never watched Star Trek - do these things recharge or something?
(Sorry, can't resist: "DON'T TASE ME BRO!!")
If we are willing to sacrifice a little bit of Crys, LSG and I might be able to recharge them. Granted, we can't do this until the hold is repaired (and I have no idea how much Crys it would take)
path12
07-09-2008, 11:12 AM
Path, scan me please if you don't mind.
You got it, Cap.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 11:12 AM
Danny is the first to receive ministrations for his wounds from the newly appointed medic, bulletsponge.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 11:13 AM
Path, scan me please if you don't mind.
That worries me.
path12
07-09-2008, 11:14 AM
ha, I love that game. Haven't played in forever though.
But you're saying path that you'd almost rather not scan the people who leave the ship (since they'd presumably have a higher chance of being spawn)
Yeah, harsh as it might be I'd rather them become lynch targets down the road instead of scan targets. I figure that by the results they get we might be able to figure out who gets infected.
Chubby
07-09-2008, 11:14 AM
let's see a good scan path :)
Telle
07-09-2008, 11:15 AM
Sure, I'll get right on that.
Btw, I was informed that I can't take the exact same group as yesterday as before I took two slaves and they're not available today since they're running amuck. So instead I kept it as the same three non-slaves so there are just fewer of us this time.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 11:16 AM
"Captain Alan if you could please come with me sir," the good doctor path requests. The two men adjourn to the infirmary where an examination is done. A while later the two emerge, the exam done.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:17 AM
That worries me.
The reason why was because of my sleeping PM I received last night. I got an odd message that I think is one of two things. It said that I used to trust the crew, but once I landed that started to change... but it wasn't an always thing, but only a sometimes thing.
I asked Barkeep what it meant, and he told me he wasn't going to clarify any further.. so my hunch is that I have a secret ability to be able to detect a spawn the more nights I sleep with them.. but a small part of me is worried that I have a spawnling inside of me. If the latter, then I want to find out now so Path can remove it.. if the former, then now that I have revealed this, I want to be in the brig where 1) I will be with the same people every night and be able to pick up if a spawn is in there somehow and 2) I want to be protected so someone can't kill me because of this ability.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 11:17 AM
That worries me.
Ditto, but I'll be curious to hearing the reasoning.
path12
07-09-2008, 11:17 AM
That worries me.
He was going to be in the first three or four scans anyway, so might as well be now. If he turns up bad it seems a weird way to go out this early.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:18 AM
Plus, even if Path is bad I am not worried about him lying and saying I am bad because as per the rules if I was, he and I would both die... so since I know I am good, I feel pretty confident that Path will announce I am good :)
Telle
07-09-2008, 11:20 AM
Btw, I was informed that I can't take the exact same group as yesterday as before I took two slaves and they're not available today since they're running amuck. So instead I kept it as the same three non-slaves so there are just fewer of us this time.
Gah.. now I can't take clap either because he's being trained. Any suggestions on who I should take on this dang mission?
hoopsguy
07-09-2008, 11:20 AM
I spied on Saldana last night, he didn't do anything. I was also attacked by a slave but was able to kill him with my phaser.
Did anyone else get a PM regarding sleeping conditions?
Still catching up now, but I can semi-vouch for this. I spied on Olie and she was spying on someone. I also got word that she was disturbed about something. I was hoping it would be Spawn, not Slave, related.
I picked Olie because she had multiple night action choices and I wanted to make sure she was doing one of those rather than something inconsistent with her public role. I also wanted to trust the person giving out the phasers, given the attack/defense bonus associated with them.
bulletsponge
07-09-2008, 11:20 AM
Danny is the first to receive ministrations for his wounds from the newly appointed medic, claphamsa.
are you sure that isnt me doing the healing?
jeheinz72
07-09-2008, 11:20 AM
So wait, clap is a medic? I thought he was an engineer
KWhit
07-09-2008, 11:21 AM
Gah.. now I can't take clap either because he's being trained. Any suggestions on who I should take on this dang mission?
Take the scientist you took yesterday and three of the privates.
bulletsponge
07-09-2008, 11:21 AM
^^^ he named wrong guy, im healing him
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:22 AM
Gah.. now I can't take clap either because he's being trained. Any suggestions on who I should take on this dang mission?
Engineers, Security staff , medical staff and officers are pretty much busy or we don't want them out..
So that leaves you, any privates not busy Marc Vaughn I believe and the two scientist Lonestargirl and packerfanatic I believe
path12
07-09-2008, 11:22 AM
The reason why was because of my sleeping PM I received last night. I got an odd message that I think is one of two things. It said that I used to trust the crew, but once I landed that started to change... but it wasn't an always thing, but only a sometimes thing.
I asked Barkeep what it meant, and he told me he wasn't going to clarify any further.. so my hunch is that I have a secret ability to be able to detect a spawn the more nights I sleep with them.. but a small part of me is worried that I have a spawnling inside of me. If the latter, then I want to find out now so Path can remove it.. if the former, then now that I have revealed this, I want to be in the brig where 1) I will be with the same people every night and be able to pick up if a spawn is in there somehow and 2) I want to be protected so someone can't kill me because of this ability.
I found no indication of Spawn with you, so there is no spawnling and we're both still alive. I wonder if this means Unaware Spawn though, which I don't think I would detect.
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 11:23 AM
Telle - I would suggest taking LSG as your scientist, as I am wounded and would likely be less effective (and with having less people going anyway, we want as much effectiveness as we can get)
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 11:23 AM
^^^ he named wrong guy, im healing him
Correct. bullet healed Danny.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 11:23 AM
Path, do you get a nightscan as well or do you have to wait until tomorrow?
PackerFanatic
07-09-2008, 11:23 AM
Or take us both, up to you.
Telle
07-09-2008, 11:24 AM
Chubby was being trained for something too, right? So the only private I have available is Marc Vaughan?
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:25 AM
I found no indication of Spawn with you, so there is no spawnling and we're both still alive. I wonder if this means Unaware Spawn though, which I don't think I would detect.
That description doesn't seem to match up with the PM I Got. I believe Unaware spawn knows they are a spawn at night time. My PM only indicated what I tried to paraphrase. Like I said I -think- it leads me to believe that I am "Spawn Aware" but wanted to make sure it wasn't a spawnling.
I already have a list of the 10 people who slept in the same room as me last night in case I am right about that so I can try to keep track of when I get this feeling.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 11:25 AM
Telle - I would suggest taking LSG as your scientist, as I am wounded and would likely be less effective (and with having less people going anyway, we want as much effectiveness as we can get)
Telle,
I don't think you should take a small group. Max it out at 5 if you can.
path12
07-09-2008, 11:25 AM
Path, do you get a nightscan as well or do you have to wait until tomorrow?
Just one per day. I'm done until tomorrow. If someone wanted to heal me that would be pretty cool, if not I'll just be hanging around.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 11:25 AM
Take the scientist you took yesterday and three of the privates.
Privates
Claphamsa - being trained as an engineer
Marc Vaughn
Chubby
bulletsponge - is now a medic and has used his AP healing someone
Are Marc Vaughn and Chubby doing anything?
Chubby
07-09-2008, 11:25 AM
Chubby was being trained for something too, right? So the only private I have available is Marc Vaughan?
I'm half trained as ensign but I'm not being trained today (as far as I know)
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:26 AM
Telle,
I don't think you should take a small group. Max it out at 5 if you can.
I don't think we ever got an answer on this:
Barkeep, can the slaves be rounded up, then go on an away mission today? And then later be killed if we so choose?
path12
07-09-2008, 11:27 AM
That description doesn't seem to match up with the PM I Got. I believe Unaware spawn knows they are a spawn at night time. My PM only indicated what I tried to paraphrase. Like I said I -think- it leads me to believe that I am "Spawn Aware" but wanted to make sure it wasn't a spawnling.
I already have a list of the 10 people who slept in the same room as me last night in case I am right about that so I can try to keep track of when I get this feeling.
It was interesting because my scan of KWhit had a phrase that told me he was pure human but I didn't get that with yours -- it may mean nothing (God knows it's easy to read too much into PM's) but combined with your concern I thought I'd at least throw it out there.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:28 AM
I'm half trained as ensign but I'm not being trained today (as far as I know)
Since we were training up Chubby to lead away missions anyways he seems like a decent one to take then today. So if BK gives us the yes answer to my question, you could do an away team of you + Chubby + Marc Vaughn + a scientist + 1 slave once some slaves are herded up.
path12
07-09-2008, 11:28 AM
Dola, but I'll also repeat that no indication of Spawn was found with you.
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 11:29 AM
It was interesting because my scan of KWhit had a phrase that told me he was pure human but I didn't get that with yours -- it may mean nothing (God knows it's easy to read too much into PM's) but combined with your concern I thought I'd at least throw it out there.
Path, for similar reasoning then, please consider scanning me tomorrow. I know as a simple engineer I may not be high on the list but I would be curious to compare the result of me to that of KWhit and Alan T.
path12
07-09-2008, 11:29 AM
I should know better than to dola in this game.
Telle
07-09-2008, 11:29 AM
Since we were training up Chubby to lead away missions anyways he seems like a decent one to take then today. So if BK gives us the yes answer to my question, you could do an away team of you + Chubby + Marc Vaughn + a scientist + 1 slave once some slaves are herded up.
Do we want to put two new privates out there if we have more slaves available? Maybe take one of them plus two slaves?
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:30 AM
Do we want to put two new privates out there if we have more slaves available? Maybe take one of them plus two slaves?
I'll leave that up to you and Kwhit. I was just tossing it out as a possibility to not be overlooked
path12
07-09-2008, 11:31 AM
Path, for similar reasoning then, please consider scanning me tomorrow. I know as a simple engineer I may not be high on the list but I would be curious to compare the result of me to that of KWhit and Alan T.
Can't promise anything right now. There are definitely roles that I think are more important to clear first -- unless you're saying that you believe you have a spawnling inside you.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:32 AM
Can't promise anything right now. There are definitely roles that I think are more important to clear first -- unless you're saying that you believe you have a spawnling inside you.
If he does have a spawnling inside of him, it wouldn't be a great idea to scan him tommorrow as he would be a full spawn by then.
Telle
07-09-2008, 11:32 AM
Ok, so I'm going to wait a little bit to see if we get some slaves rounded up and if I can use them once they are, and to see if Chubby is going to be trained today or not.
Right now I'm thinking LoneStarGirl (since PackerFanatic is exhausted) + Marc Vaughan (so Chubby can finish getting trained) + two slaves.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 11:32 AM
Path, for similar reasoning then, please consider scanning me tomorrow. I know as a simple engineer I may not be high on the list but I would be curious to compare the result of me to that of KWhit and Alan T.
What do you mean?
Did you get a strange message last night along the lines of Alan's?
I don't want to be comparing PMs, but did you receive a 'feeling' of some kind that we should know about?
PurdueBrad
07-09-2008, 11:34 AM
Can't promise anything right now. There are definitely roles that I think are more important to clear first -- unless you're saying that you believe you have a spawnling inside you.
No spawnling to the best of my knowledge but I got a similar PM as Alan only with some different information. It didn't dawn on me, until he asked to be scanned, to think that it could be a bad thing. Nothing I read from it indicates that. In fact, it is very vague and indicates very little but nothing dark or dangerous in terms of our mission. So it's your call. That's why I asked about Hoops earlier, was hoping for an interrogation to share info with somebody but I guess this did it.
KWhit
07-09-2008, 11:34 AM
Is Chubby getting trained today? I thought he said he was not.
Mrs. Schmidty
07-09-2008, 11:34 AM
I guarded Kwhit last night and killed a slave in the process.
Can we get a list going of what all the exhausted people have done?
RendeR
Hoopsguy- guarded (?) sleeping quarters
Tyrith- worked overnight on the HQ
PurdueBrad- worked overnight on the HQ
Danny- worked overnight on the pens
JeHeinz- worked overnight on the pens
Oliegirl- guarded (?) sleeping quarters
Passacaglia- guarded the HQ
Schmidty- guarded the water
Mrs. Schmidty- guarded (?) the sleeping quarters
Packerfanatic
Bulletsponge
I filled in the ones I know. As for the question marks, I simply wasn't sure if that is what their action was. That leaves a couple people unaccounted for that I'm curious about their actions.
Alan T
07-09-2008, 11:35 AM
There was a little conversation this morning regarding it, but the more I think about it, the more I think it wouldn't be a bad idea for the duplicant (if we have one) to go ahead and use their ability sooner (ie: today or tommorrow) rather than later...
THe longer we go in this game, if you aren't a cleared/protected person, the chances of you either dying or getting converted increases and we'll lose the ability unused anyways.
We have a ton of stuff that needs to be fixed if you wanted to duplicate a chief engineer or something.. but I still would love to see Path cleared today before we get too far down the rabbit hole. And would love the duplicant to use his ability to scan Path today.
We know Kwhit was guarded last night per MrsSchmidty.. so if Path is ok, then I feel really good about our CoT .. then we just have to keep the brig safe and Security HQ repaired...
I'm not ordering the duplicant to do this or anything, but I would really like you to strongly consider that we will possibly get the most bang for the buck using it today to scan Path
Chubby
07-09-2008, 11:35 AM
If I do get sent out it's be swell if I was healed first since I'm wounded from being attacked by a slave last night.
With that I'm off to work. Hopefully we get some luck today.
Barkeep49
07-09-2008, 11:35 AM
I don't think we ever got an answer on this:
Barkeep, can the slaves be rounded up, then go on an away mission today? And then later be killed if we so choose?
Yes
Telle
07-09-2008, 11:36 AM
Is Chubby getting trained today? I thought he said he was not.
RendeR asked about whether or not you can skip a day of training and continue. I don't think a decision was made as to whether or not the training was going to happen.
mccollins
07-09-2008, 11:36 AM
Ok, so I'm going to wait a little bit to see if we get some slaves rounded up and if I can use them once they are, and to see if Chubby is going to be trained today or not.
Right now I'm thinking LoneStarGirl (since PackerFanatic is exhausted) + Marc Vaughan (so Chubby can finish getting trained) + two slaves.
RendeR used his 1 AP to convert bulletsponge from a Private to a Medic and Chubby will (I suppose) finish his training with RendeR during Day 3.
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