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  • bad_philanthropy
    MVP
    • Jul 2005
    • 12167

    #316
    Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

    Originally posted by Majingir
    lol ya, Bautista took that video on Jays plane to Tampa.




    On a diff note...I'm buying tickets for a game, and don't know if I should wait until the day before(or day of) the game to buy tickets(since 1st row seats become available on gameday) or just buy tickets now? I wanna wait cause 1st row seats sometimes are available on gameday, but don't wanna risk not getting 1st row seats or my 2nd choice either, and Jays have "no seat upgrade" rule either, which sorta sucks.

    The price will be the same regardless, it's just whether or not I get to sit 1st row, or several rows back.
    I got some seats for the game on Friday about two weeks earlier for 7th row in 114. There weren't many available at the time. Also, then my girlfriend got pissed when she found out I was going with a buddy so I had to get some for the Twins game on the 5th, and there were even fewer good seats available for that. You're right though about close seats opening up on game day, but if you're trying to have some guarantee about he experience I'd say take a look at what's available asap. I'm actually surprised how few options there were on 100 level.

    Also, question for everyone:

    Does Brett Lawrie help or hurt this team right now?

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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47603

      #317
      Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

      Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
      I got some seats for the game on Friday about two weeks earlier for 7th row in 114. There weren't many available at the time. Also, then my girlfriend got pissed when she found out I was going with a buddy so I had to get some for the Twins game on the 5th, and there were even fewer good seats available for that. You're right though about close seats opening up on game day, but if you're trying to have some guarantee about he experience I'd say take a look at what's available asap. I'm actually surprised how few options there were on 100 level.

      Also, question for everyone:

      Does Brett Lawrie help or hurt this team right now?
      Hurt in the sense that it'll cause the team to get rid of someone(Kawasaki likely) but very well help,assuming he is back to the numbers he put up last year and for most of May 2013.

      I know you mentioned 100 level seats, but how high up in 200 level(row wise) was the highest you sat(if you've been in 200 level), and did the ceiling above(that hangs over the highest few rows in the section) obstruct your view(assuming you've sat that high up in 200 level)
      Last edited by Majingir; 06-23-2013, 10:08 PM.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #318
        Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

        Originally posted by bad_philanthropy

        Also, question for everyone:

        Does Brett Lawrie help or hurt this team right now?
        I'm not sure, there's been talk that Lawrie's act has gone stale in Toronto mainly due to his attitude. It'd be different if he was showing some production at the plate. I wouldn't rule out the idea of AA trying to trade him at the deadline for something we could use now.

        As soon as he's back on the team he's gonna have to earn his spot on the roster and be the player he was when he was first called up.
        Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

        "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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        • Redacted01
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2007
          • 10316

          #319
          Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

          I'd wait a while on Lawrie. Last I heard, there was still no real timeline on his return. Let him get healthy and see if he performs in rehab. Then worry about where he'll go. Him being injured, it will be much harder to trade him for anything. He'll have to play to get us something. Even then, I'd rather have him at 3rd.

          3rd base so far, excluding Lawrie...

          34 games
          30/139
          22 R
          7 HR (EE accounts for 3 of these)
          16 RBI
          (not messing with OBP and such because of all the recalculations)

          And Lawrie himself...

          39 games
          29/139
          11 R
          5 HR
          14 RBI
          .209/.268/.374

          So not really a major difference other than bringing runs in. Lawrie career? .266/.324/.433

          If he could return to his regular numbers, it is a no-brainer. He plays. He'd slot in perfectly in the middle of the lineup, which I could see being like this with everyone healthy.

          Reyes, Bautista, EE, Lind, Cabrera, Rasmus, Lawrie, Arencibia, Bonifacio.

          You essentially have 2 sets of 1-4 hitters right there, though Arencibia is a little more all-or-nothing compared to Lind. If Emilio would run a bit more (Rajai-esque), that is a line up that looks like 6 runs per game to me. 2003 was the last year they had that kind of offense (actually have the team record for runs scored).

          Speaking of 2003 and that 21-8 month. This was always a tough goal, but much like getting above .500 sooner rather than later, looks achievable now. Toronto is 15-4 this month with 7 games left, so 6-1 matches it, 7-0 sets a new mark. 5 more wins gives them highest winning percentage for any full month.

          So far this month, Toronto has made up 4.5 on Boston, 5 on Baltimore, 6 on NY, and 7.5 on Tampa. Thanks to Oakland's extra inning loss, Toronto sits 3 out of the 2nd wildcard and 4 out of the 1st wildcard; also just 5 out of the division so we could be working on 1st this weekend.

          In June, Toronto has average 5.52 runs per game (matching that 2003 pace; overall is just 4.72) while giving up just 57.

          The closest we have been to 1st later in the season the past decade has been 1 game: 6/23/03 (proceeded to drop 10 games in the standings over the next month) and 6/15/06.

          As for the present?
          TOR/TB: aim for 2 of 3.
          CLE/BAL: we're tied with the Tribe, so let's Cleveland win at least 2 of 4.
          TEX/NYY: let's have Texas take at least 2.
          COL/BOS: Hopefully Colorado can do damage but not concerned here.
          CIN/OAK: Short series so as long as Cinci takes 1.

          After Thursday night, I'll see where we stand and some series may no longer matter depending on how things play out until then.

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          • bad_philanthropy
            MVP
            • Jul 2005
            • 12167

            #320
            Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

            Originally posted by SPTO
            I'm not sure, there's been talk that Lawrie's act has gone stale in Toronto mainly due to his attitude. It'd be different if he was showing some production at the plate. I wouldn't rule out the idea of AA trying to trade him at the deadline for something we could use now.

            As soon as he's back on the team he's gonna have to earn his spot on the roster and be the player he was when he was first called up.
            Boy it would be rough on the fanbase if he got traded. Every game I've been to this year was a sea of Lawrie jerseys. I'd say it was the most popular by far. But I am not surprised by what you're suggesting, and I agree.

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            • Majingir
              Moderator
              • Apr 2005
              • 47603

              #321
              Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

              Reyes back tomorrow.Lawrie should be back within 1-2 weeks.Santos looks like he could be back right before(or after) all star break.So hopefully these guys are able to come back and really help the team for 2nd half of season.

              In the "2nd half" of season(meaning final 81 games) we play 29 games against teams below .500(as of today).That's over a third of those games! The best of those below .500 teams are 35-38 Royals!

              For comparison....First 81 games of season we played teams that (as of today) are below .500 only 12 times! So while we do have 6 games left before 81 game mark of season, finishing around .500 during the hard half of our schedule, with a number of important MLB guys injured, should hopefully lead to a great 2nd half.

              So if Jays can go like .700 against the below .500 teams and go .500 against the above .500 teams, that should be good enough for win total around high 80s-low 90s.
              Last edited by Majingir; 06-25-2013, 04:43 PM.

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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #322
                Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

                NO NO

                #FREEKAWASAKI!
                Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                • Redacted01
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 10316

                  #323
                  Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

                  Still would have preferred to see Juan Perez go down, though he did finally get some use recently. Guess if Kawasaki has options, it is the easier, uhh, option.

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                  • bad_philanthropy
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 12167

                    #324
                    Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

                    It's frustrating how much of a house of horrors the Trop is for the Jays. Please just win today, and GTFO.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47603

                      #325
                      Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

                      3-2 to be above .500 at 81 game mark of season. 9-9 to be .500 at all star break.

                      Never realized game today is so early. Seems random to have Wednesday game at 12pm.

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                      • Redacted01
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 10316

                        #326
                        Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

                        Originally posted by Majingir
                        3-2 to be above .500 at 81 game mark of season. 9-9 to be .500 at all star break.

                        Never realized game today is so early. Seems random to have Wednesday game at 12pm.
                        Getaway day. Toronto is in Boston tomorrow night. They are quite common. See Texas/NY tomorrow for instance.

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47603

                          #327
                          Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

                          I really hope the Jays do close the roof for Dickeys starts. Anyone on here with twitter, tweet Jays and Rogers Centre and tell them to close roof for Dickeys starts since he does much better in closed dome than open dome at Rogers Centre!

                          Next start is Canada day game at home against Tigers. So open roof vs them would be huge trouble for Dickey. Weather isn't gonna be that hot or rain at all, so sounds like an open roof kind of game!

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                          • Redacted01
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 10316

                            #328
                            Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

                            1-2 isn't so bad, but that offense needs to get going again. And Lester, Webster, Doubront, and Dempster is going to be one helluva weekend! How the hell Boston is in first with that bunch I do not know.

                            Here is the mission guys: go 3-1. No ifs, ands, or buts. Wang has been pitching terrific and Lester is nothing impressive at all (still can't believe Po1sonnn was trying to say he is one of the best #2's this year). Johnson gets to face a guy who has a horrible couple of starts in Webster. If Esmil Rogers can get Monday night's game out of his head against this Boston lineup, maybe, just maybe. Sunday will depend on which Buehrle shows up. Dempster let's runs get across, so if we can get hits with runners in scoring position... 3-1 is possible and this will be a great series to watch.

                            First, we have what is left tonight: Let's have Texas beat NYY and Cleveland beat Baltimore. Does the most for us after the past 3 days.

                            Here is what is going on above us Fri-Sun: CIN @ TEX, STL @ OAK, NYY @ BAL, CLE @ CWS, DET @ TB.

                            We want Detroit to take 2 of 3. Pending us playing like **** again for 4 days, that will let us pick back up on Tampa.

                            It would be nice if Chicago could take 2 of 3 from Cleveland to help us out, but even one win may not happen as Chris Sale pitching against Masterson is their best hope. But it's a long season, so we'll say 2/3 for Cleveland so we hopefully get something.

                            Now because we've actually beaten the O's and they aren't that great pitching-wise, let's hope they can take 2 of 3 from the Yankees. Yankees have great pitching and no offense. That scares me more having to play them with the way our offense is sometimes, so let's pick up more ground on NY.

                            Unfortunately, Cincinnati and St. Louis have been playing like crap these days, so I highly doubt either wins their series. Let's hope 2 of 3 for the AL West teams, and no worse. It's a bonus if they lose 2 or more.

                            So, Monday morning, here is what we will hopefully see...

                            OAK (48-35)
                            BAL (45-38)
                            NYY (43-38) - 1 GB
                            CLE (43-38) - 1 GB
                            TOR (42-39) - 2 GB (5 GB OAK, 4.5 GB BOS)
                            TB (42-40) - 2.5 GB

                            If we only manage a split, we'll be 3 GB Baltimore, 6 GB Oakland, and 6.5 GB Boston. Either way, not too bad given the April we had and it will only be July 1st.

                            A 4-game sweep would give them the highest winning percentage for any month in team history (20-6, .769)

                            ***Just noticed Chicago and Cleveland is a double header tomorrow, so yea, let's hope for an extra Chicago win. That extra game won't change things too much as long as Chicago wins one.
                            Last edited by Redacted01; 06-27-2013, 04:41 PM.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47603

                              #329
                              Re: 2013 Toronto Blue Jays

                              Lester: 2-0 with 2.05ERA against Jays so far this year(Melky is the only guy with 10+ at bats and AVG over .240 against him)

                              Doubront: 2-2 with 5.40ERA in career vs Jays(EE,Rasmus,Reyes have done great against him)

                              Webster: Never faced Jays before(though he's 0-2 with 11.25ERA so far)

                              Dempster: 1-1 with 5.47ERA in career vs Jays




                              So of the Red Sox starters, 3 of those guys the Jays bats better hit off them like other teams have been(and/or like Jays in general have in the past)


                              Though our starters haven't done much better too, so this entire series could be a high scoring one.

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                              • Bluejaysfan65
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 4784

                                #330
                                The Jays recalled Kawasaki, placed Melky Cabrera on 15-Day Disabled List.
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