NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

[EccentricMeat]

Start screen credits to MillenniumTCK of NBA2kOrg

Xbox 360/PS3 Sliders


The first slider set is made for the Xbox 360's OS Sim Collab 'Swagged Out' roster (found HERE), and will most likely be incompatible with any other roster.

The second slider set is made for the Xbox 360's PJT05's Hardwood Hoops roster (found HERE), and should be compatible (with some slight tweaking) with the following rosters:

Xbox 360: Take That 2K13, 2013 Trifecta Roster Project, and the 2k default rosters (it may be compatible with others, so feel free to experiment for yourselves).

PS3: The absolute best roster on PS3 is Bedwardsroy19's Roster, and I have heard from multiple people that it is compatible with this set. So, seeing as I am not a PS3 user and therefore cannot test the sliders on any PS3 roster, I would recommend that you stick with Bed's roster as it is the best available option.

OS SiM Collab Roster: SwaGGed OUT - Slider Set *BETA*

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Disclaimer: This version of the slider set may be more difficult than some of you are comfortable with. The CPU's offense and defense are VERY challenging, and will make you pay for almost every mistake. I will provide a few "easier" settings to make the slider set accessible to all skill levels.

Easier settings will be green and in parentheses, after the original values. Example:
Steal Success - 55/50 (50/45)

Roster
As stated above in large green letters, this slider set was made specifically for the OS SiM Collab roster, which you can find by following the link HERE.

Gameplay
Difficulty - All-Star or Superstar (Superstar is HIGHLY recommended)
Game Speed - 50
Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Fatigue - On
Injuries - On
Shooting Type - User Timing
FT Shooting Type - Real Player %
Free Throw Difficulty - 50

Controller Settings
Automatic Shot Contest - Intense-D
Defensive Assist Strength - 50 (Decrease for more of a challenge)

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 42/36
Close Shot Success - 45
Mid-Range Success - 48/46
3PT Success - 46/47
Layup Success - 50
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 15
Dunk in Traffic Success - 30
Pass Accuracy - 49
Alley-Oop Success - 48
Contact Shot Success - 52

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 85
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Layup Defense Strength TAKEOFF - 85
Layup Defense Strength RELEASE - 100
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 50
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 78
Help Defense Strength - 100
Steal Success - 55/50 (55/48)

Attributes
Quickness - 45/40
Vertical - 65
Strength - 45/40
Stamina - 50
Speed - 45/40
Durability - 50
Hustle - 88/27
Ball Handling - 30
Hands - 55
Dunking Ability - 50
On-Ball Defense - 70
Stealing - 50
Blocking - 85
Offensive Awareness - 50
Defensive Awareness - 75
Offensive Rebounding - 62/48
Defensive Rebounding - 58/52
Consistency - 25/50
Fatigue Rate - 52
Injury Frequency - 60 (40 in Association Mode)
Injury Severity - 50 (0 in Association Mode)

Tendencies *Only for CPU unless two values are given* (Bolded values signify an optional update)
Take Inside Shots - 16
Take Close Shots - 14
Take Mid-Range Shots - 60
Take 3Pt Shots - 65
Post Shots - 85
Attack the Basket - 35
Look for Post Players - 100
Throw Alley-Oops - 50
Attempt Dunks - 50
Attempt Putbacks - 65/60
Play Passing Lanes - 90/70 (85/65)
Go For On-Ball Steals - 100/100 (100/95)
Contest Shots - 100/100
Backdoor Cuts - 50/5

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 65
Reaching Foul Frequency - 20
Shooting Foul Frequency - 98
Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 100

*Other Rosters* - Latest Update: May 30th - Version 4.2

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What's New: In Version 4.1, a lot of fine-tuning has gone into the Defense and Tendencies sliders. Some of the more important features of this version include:

1. The AI will now run a more slow and fluid offense, making the game look and feel more authentic
2. Decreased field goal attempts per game (which will also lower rebounds per game)
3. The AI pick 'n roll is now more deadly, as the ball-handler now attacks the basket more often and with more purpose
4. Players now react much more realistically to the defense. If you give a good shooter some space, you're going to pay for it.
5. Defensive pressure now realistically affects the offense. There are now a lot fewer dunks in traffic, fewer "turbo dunks" which slide the defenders out of the way, and a much more diverse amount of animations on shots/layups in traffic.
6. For both the USER and CPU, the "drive-and-kick" offense will be not only more effective, but it will also be run more often. Defenses react realistically to players in the paint, which will lower the average Points in the Paint and increase assists. Also, low post players will get plenty of touches, but will NOT force up a shot against strong defense, opting instead to pass it out to an open shooter.

Roster
I STRONGLY suggest using ANY roster that incorporates vannwolfhawk's playbook edits. With his playbooks, the game plays REMARKABLY better, and you're really missing out if you're using a roster without them.

Gameplay
Difficulty - All-Star
Game Style - Simulation
Game Speed - 52
Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Sim Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Fatigue - On
Injuries - On
Shooting Type - User Timing (Personal Preference)
FT Shooting Type - Real Player %
Free Throw Difficulty - 0

My Controller:
Automatic Shot Contest - Intense-D
Defensive Assist Strength - 30 (Increase if you need more help with on-ball defense)

Coach Profiles (For all Teams)
Run Plays (When using a roster without Vannwolfhawk's Playbooks) - 0
Run Plays (When using a roster with Vannwolfhawk's Playbooks) - Default
Fastbreak - Default (The patch has seemed to eliminate the fastbreak issue, so I suggest leaving this at your roster's default value)

If there are any noticeable problems that need addressed, be sure to report them here!

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 43/46
Close Shot Success - 46/49
Mid-Range Success - 49/51
3PT Success - 48/53
Layup Success - 50
Dunk In Traffic Frequency - 20
Dunk In Traffic Success - 40
Pass Accuracy - 47/46
Alley-Oop Success - 47/48
Contact Shot Success - 55

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 85
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Layup Defense Strength TAKEOFF - 85
Layup Defense Strength RELEASE - 100
Jump Shot Defense Strength GATHER - 75
Jump Shot Defense Strength RELEASE - 100
Help Defense Strength - 95
Steal Success - 52

Attributes
Quickness - 37/31
Vertical - 58/54
Strength - 57/53
Stamina - 50
Speed - 39/34
Durability - 50
Hustle - 88/26
Ball Handling - 38/35
Hands - 65
Dunking Ability - 45/40
On-Ball Defense - 50/46
Stealing - 55/50
Blocking - 75
Offensive Awareness - 50/70
Defensive Awareness - 70/75
Offensive Rebounding - 58/48
Defensive Rebounding - 55/52
Consistency - 35/65
Fatigue Rate - 55
Injury Frequency - 75
Injury Severity - 50

Tendencies *Only for CPU unless two values are given*
Take Inside Shots - 15
Take Close Shots - 15
Take Mid-Range Shots - 35
Take 3Pt Shots - 60
Post Shots - 60
Attack the Basket - 25
Look for Post Players - 100
Throw Alley-Oops - 50
Attempt Dunks - 50
Attempt Putbacks - 70
Play Passing Lanes - 90/50
Go For On-Ball Steals - 48/52
Contest Shots - 95/95
Backdoor Cuts - 5

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 90
Reaching Foul Frequency - 65
Shooting Foul Frequency - 97/99
Loose Ball Foul Frequency -100

CPU vs. CPU Sliders
Only the CPU value is listed, for obvious reasons. Any sliders not mentioned remain the same as the "User vs. CPU" slider set.

*Still Testing*
For now, all values stay the same as the User vs. CPU slider set.

Association Mode
These sliders are for Offline Association mode only. In my opinion, these give the best results by far. Any sliders not mentioned remain the same as the User/CPU or CPU/CPU slider sets above.

Game Options (Press Y/Triangle at the Team/Jersey selection screen)
Game Speed - 55
Player Speed - 38

Attributes
Quickness - 49/44
Speed - 50/45
Injury Frequency - 40 (Any higher results in too many sim injuries)
Injury Severity - 0 (Makes it so the majority of injuries are minor)

Pre-Patch Slider Set
Some of you may not have access to XBL or PSN, and therefore won't have access to a patch for the foreseeable future. Because of this, I made sure to keep my Pre-Patch slider set alive in the form of a blog post. To access my Pre-Patch slider, go to my blog post here:
NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" All-Star Slider Set (Pre-Patch)


PC Sliders (URB Specific)

Latest Update: February 14th - Version 1.2.1

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What's New: Version 1.0A is my very first slider set for the PC version of NBA 2k13, but don't let that fact throw you off. In my honest opinion, these just may be the best sliders I've released to date. These sliders are HEAVILY based off of my Xbox 360/PS3 slider set, and the way they compliment the URB roster makes the game as enjoyable to play as, dare I say, NBA 2k11.
Version 1.0B is a minor update which focuses on lowering the points in the paint mainly by increasing the amount of fouls called and also by making contested inside shots a little less likely to go in.

Roster
As you have read above, these sliders are specific to the URB roster. You are free to try these with any other roster, but just remember that I have not tested these sliders with any other roster, and I do not plan on doing so.

URB thread/download link: http://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=89036

Gameplay
Difficulty - All-Star
Game Style - Simulation
Game Speed - 52
Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Sim Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Fatigue - On
Injuries - On
Shooting Type - User Timing (Personal Preference)
FT Shooting Type - Real Player %
Free Throw Difficulty - 0

My Controller:
Automatic Shot Contest - Intense-D
Defensive Assist Strength - 30 (Increase if you need more help with on-ball defense)

Coach Profiles (For all Teams)
Leave all values as they are in URB V5.

If there are any noticeable problems that need addressed, be sure to report them here!

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 43/46
Close Shot Success - 46/49
Mid-Range Success - 49/51
3PT Success - 47/53
Layup Success - 48
Dunk In Traffic Frequency - 18
Dunk In Traffic Success - 35
Pass Accuracy - 47/46
Alley-Oop Success - 47/48
Contact Shot Success - 54/55

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Layup Defense Strength TAKEOFF - 100
Layup Defense Strength RELEASE - 100
Jump Shot Defense Strength GATHER - 75
Jump Shot Defense Strength RELEASE - 100
Help Defense Strength - 95
Steal Success - 47

Attributes
Quickness - 37/33
Vertical - 58/53
Strength - 56/53
Stamina - 50
Speed - 39/35
Durability - 50
Hustle - 88/26
Ball Handling - 36/33
Hands - 65/62
Dunking Ability - 45/40
On-Ball Defense - 52/52
Stealing - 50/47
Blocking - 70/66
Offensive Awareness - 50/72
Defensive Awareness - 75
Offensive Rebounding - 58/48
Defensive Rebounding - 55/52
Consistency - 35/65
Fatigue Rate - 55
Injury Frequency - 75
Injury Severity - 50

Tendencies *Only for CPU unless two values are given*
Take Inside Shots - 15
Take Close Shots - 14
Take Mid-Range Shots - 40
Take 3Pt Shots - 65
Post Shots - 58
Attack the Basket - 25
Look for Post Players - 100
Throw Alley-Oops - 49
Attempt Dunks - 50
Attempt Putbacks - 70
Play Passing Lanes - 90/55
Go For On-Ball Steals - 52/52
Contest Shots - 90/75
Backdoor Cuts - 5

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 75
Reaching Foul Frequency - 75
Shooting Foul Frequency - 97/99
Loose Ball Foul Frequency -100

Association Mode
These sliders are for Offline Association mode only. In my opinion, these give the best results by far. Any sliders not mentioned remain the same as the User/CPU or CPU/CPU slider sets above.

Game Options (Press Y/Triangle at the Team/Jersey selection screen)
Game Speed - 55
Player Speed - 35

Attributes
Quickness - 49/45
Speed - 50/46
Injury Frequency - 40 (Any higher results in too many sim injuries)
Injury Severity - 0 (Makes it so the majority of injuries are minor)

Any feedback is very much appreciated, as any help I can get expedites the fine-tuning process. However, be sure to keep the criticism as constructive and informative as possible. Try to point out what you are seeing too much of (ex. The AI attacks the basket too often), what you're not seeing enough of (ex. The AI does not go to the post often enough), etc.

Here's a simple resource I made to help depict what exactly "realistic stats" should look like:
NBA Stats to Replicate with Sliders

Feel free to give my thread 5 stars and "like" this post if you enjoy my set. It shows others that these are quality sliders, and it makes me feel a little warm inside, too.

Enjoy!

[free24ride1]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

I got questions..

Durability 40/35?
Fatigue Rate 57 for both USER/CPU?

Tendencies *Only for CPU*

The user "go for on-ball steal" tendency is 40 on simulation sliders. Should I change that back to 50 or it remains as 40?

I will test your sliders when I get back home

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

I got questions..

Durability 40/35?
Fatigue Rate 57 for both USER/CPU?

Tendencies *Only for CPU*

The user "go for on-ball steal" tendency is 40 on simulation sliders. Should I change that back to 50 or it remains as 40?

I will test your sliders when I get back home

I don't believe I mentioned Durability. I am testing that slider, however, in hopes that it may fix the "lack of in-game injuries" bug so that Injury Frequency can stay at 50 (for Association game-simulation purposes).

Fatigue rate remains at it's default Simulation setting for both User and CPU.

And as for User tendencies, I didn't touch them at all. If I do in the future, the only ones I will change will be Go for On Ball Steals and Play Passing Lanes, but I'm not sure I'll need to do that.

Let me know how your testing goes!

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

These are good. Already using something similar, and am getting some good games.

Curious...what the hell does the consistency slider do? It says something about players playing true to attributes.

[free24ride1]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Okay I played one game using your settings and sliders (used Cheat Engine to lock the sliders and settings) and this is what I noticed:

* The CPU was making more plays for the big men, passing to them if given an opportunity and the big men will play aggressively in the post, which is what I like.

*The game speed feels more fluid like you said

*The CPU is leaving me from the 3-point line most of the time or gives me enough space to shoot it from there. Maybe you can improve the on-ball defense for CPU?

*This has happened atleast 2-4 times in the game (not sure) but as soon as the CPU passes it to the PG from the inbounds, one of the CPU's teammates is open from half court and ends up a cherrypick for them, easy basket.

*The CPU's 3 point FG% was horrible in this game, only making 1/13, but this is only one game. Will post more.

*I think the slider needs to improve the defense, not much turnovers, steals and blocks on this one game, but the rest of the stats look good.

Like I said, this is only one game though, but this is what I noticed so far after playing a game with 12 minutes quarter. I will tell you more after a couple of games.

[ExtraWhistle]

Starting a game this very second with these. I'll post results.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

These are good. Already using something similar, and am getting some good games.

Curious...what the hell does the consistency slider do? It says something about players playing true to attributes.

That's basically what it does. Consistency effects the hot and cold streaks, so with Consistency at 0 you get cold/hot more easily, but also drop out of a streak quickly as well. At 100, you don't really get cold/hot, so players play more true to their attributes.

If you want a little more impact from hot/cold streaks for the AI, just lower the Consistency slider a little ways. Probably to around 75.

Okay I played one game using your settings and sliders (used Cheat Engine to lock the sliders and settings) and this is what I noticed:

* The CPU was making more plays for the big men, passing to them if given an opportunity and the big men will play aggressively in the post, which is what I like.

*The game speed feels more fluid like you said

*The CPU is leaving me from the 3-point line most of the time or gives me enough space to shoot it from there. Maybe you can improve the on-ball defense for CPU?

I started to notice that as well. I'm sure raising on-ball D would fix this. I'll take a look and get back to you.

*This has happened atleast 2-4 times in the game (not sure) but as soon as the CPU passes it to the PG from the inbounds, one of the CPU's teammates is open from half court and ends up a cherrypick for them, easy basket.

Strangely, I've never seen this, and I'm not quite sure what sliders would get rid of this problem.

*The CPU's 3 point FG% was horrible in this game, only making 1/13, but this is only one game. Will post more.

I've noticed that the AI does seem to struggle from 3 in some games, but in others it seems like they can't miss. If this continues to be a problem, bump the AI 3PT Shot Success up to 49 or 50.

*I think the slider needs to improve the defense, not much turnovers, steals and blocks on this one game, but the rest of the stats look good.

If you continue to see a lack of blocks and steals, bump up the AI tendencies "Go for On Ball Steals" and "Contest Shots" to 50 and 100, respectively. Also try bumping up the AI "Hands" attribute to 40 and see how that plays for you.

Like I said, this is only one game though, but this is what I noticed so far after playing a game with 12 minutes quarter. I will tell you more after a couple of games.

My response is in your quote.

Thanks for the feedback guys!

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

New update! My sliders are now at the BETA stage, so I am getting closer to a final release!

In this update, I add in all sliders, regardless of whether they are altered from the default Simulation setting, to make the sliders easier to read and input.

Also in this update, I add in a new Coaching Profile edit for the Fastbreak setting! By using the scale I provide, you should see a dramatic improvement in the way the AI carries out the fast break. Teams that run still run, and teams that don't keep it slow, but now both will make decisions based on what the transition defense gives them. If you stop the ball-handler, this will usually result in the AI pulling back and setting up their offense. However, if you leave an open lane or the AI has numbers, you will still be punished.

Let me know your thoughts on the update!

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Alright, so I had most of the day to myself and I got to work on the final set. Suffice it to say, I am extremely pleased with what I have come up with, and I am confident that you all will enjoy this set.

The AI's fastbreak abuse? Solved.
The AI's tendency to bully themselves to the basket? Solved.
The AI's tendency to ignore the post and not use their big men? Solved.

I'm not saying that these sliders fully fix the game, or that they're the best out there. But what I will say is that almost all of the glaring problems with the AI have been remedied extremely well.

Let me know what you all think!

[free24ride1]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Are you sure Injury Frequency is suppose to be 75? I tried the 65 injury frequency with Mkharsh's slider #2 set. In just three games, almost the whole league was injured, each team had atleast 1 to 4 injured players so I had to set it back to 50 injury frequency. Btw I play My Career so there are simmed games. I guess I'm going to put it back to 50?

[papaey]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

OP can you make a slider set that do not alter the ratings? as we know now that the cpu are just getting boost in higher diff. and penalized in rookie/pro.
and gameplay wise there is no different at all in rookie to Hof if you are playing with the ai's true rating.

[free24ride1]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Can you make a slider for My Career?

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

OP can you make a slider set that do not alter the ratings? as we know now that the cpu are just getting boost in higher diff. and penalized in rookie/pro.
and gameplay wise there is no different at all in rookie to Hof if you are playing with the ai's true rating.

Actually, the AI still has better reactions, and the timing windows for the User shrink, each time you go up a difficulty level.

As for the AI boosts, yes I am aware of these. However, I feel my slider set effects the relevant AI attributes sufficiently. Give them a try, and you will notice that the AI do not have the regular attribute boosts.

Can you make a slider for My Career?

Unfortunately I do not play MyCareer, and have no interest in doing so, so I'm not sure I can be much help for that mode.

As for your injury concerns, Injury Frequency is set at 75 only for offline Quick Games. As you will see in my original post, I added an "Offline Association" set of sliders, and those sliders include Injury Frequency at 47. At 47, I am seeing just about the perfect amount of simulated injuries.

[free24ride1]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Unfortunately I do not play MyCareer, and have no interest in doing so, so I'm not sure I can be much help for that mode.

About My Career..

Well its like playing in offline association, but you play in "Player Lock" There are simmed games. You dont manage a team at all. Unlike association, you cannot change the player speed.

So instead of managing a team, you make your own player, get drafted, play games and you can't control the playeres on the team that your at, only your own player. (Since its in Player Lock depending on the position you made)

There's much more, but I think the one I said above was all you needed to know about the mode.

I hope you can make one, since with default sliders, its too easy on 12 minutes all star simulation. I've tried 12 minutes HOF simulation sliders, and it felt like the CPU was cheating on me, the game was unplayable.

[papaey]

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Actually, the AI still has better reactions, and the timing windows for the User shrink, each time you go up a difficulty level.

As for the AI boosts, yes I am aware of these. However, I feel my slider set effects the relevant AI attributes sufficiently. Give them a try, and you will notice that the AI do not have the regular attribute boosts.

Ill take a look at it. try playing in rookie(no boost in rating except -10 in SIT/SOD) and Hof(boost only in ball sec/SIT/SOT by at least 15).youll hardly see the difference. with almost 10 games i played i can conclude that the AI are just getting boost that affect your team offensively and defensively.there is no such thing that they get smarter/aggresive. It just looks like they are more aggresive in hof because of their speed/quickness boost.but gameplay wise its just the same.